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I have some additional info from our engineers on the rules our game uses for relationship culling:
1. The relationship will not decay if either the romance or friendship track goes above 20 or below -20. This means that relationships that have progressed beyond these points are safe (unless they then fall into this range).
2. Decay will not begin unless there has been no relationship progress in either direction for a day.
3. Certain relationship bits can prevent the relationship being culled anyways.
4. Even after decaying down to 0, the relationship will then still give an additional day before culling is done. If the relationship does move away from 0 in either direction, then the relationship will not be culled and the process will start all over.
After reading this, if you still believe you have a bug in your game, it'd be much appreciated if you could share a save file with me. You can DM me the link to your save, thanks for the help!
Instructions for sending me your save:
- unseenlarks5 years agoSeasoned Ace
@SimGuruNick--thank you for the update!
- SqueamishNerd5 years agoSeasoned Ace@SimGuruNick Is this happening to all sims in the save file or only the currently played household? What happens in rotational-play save files? Will all sims lose all their -19 to 19 relationships if I’m playing with another household for two days?
- 5 years ago
Yes, this is an extremely disappointing response. I play rotationally. You are telling me I must play your way, just one single household per gamefile, or my sims in currently unplayed households will forget their family, their loved ones, their rivals, their enemies. You are telling me this is the game design and you have no intentions of fixing it for rotational players.
So yeah, you're essentially telling me to -f- off.
I haven't bought anything for TS4 for months, and given this, I won't be buying anything more. I haven't played TS4 since the June/July patch, as I waited, fruitlessly, for the bugs from that patch to be fixed. I was kinda figuring you weren't fixing the relationship bug, that EA was just stringing us along here, and that official response confirms my deduction. I am SO done with being strung along.
So bye, Felicia.
- JuliaChang935 years agoSeasoned Veteran
@SimGuruNick This is also happening to me after the November patch or installing Snowy Escape, i am not sure. My sims forget their friends, i am like introducing each other for 10th time even they were friends before. It is not like decreasing relationship level, they completely disappear from relationships section. I will send my save files as soon as possible. Please fix this...
- 5 years ago
I'm confused as to whether this is supposed to be happening still or if this is a bug. I feel like I don't remember it being this bad before. It seems weird that if a teen sim meets people everyday at school that they just un-know that person after a not talking and need to reintroduce themselves but it seems like my sim isn't meeting as many new people anymore. A game changer I am watching on youtube has been noticing this more and more as well where a played sim in the Dream Home Decorator career constantly needs to reintroduce themselves to their repeat clients.
- 5 years ago
I wonder if the Cottage Living patch cased reintroduced this bug? The patch notes say they fixed something about relationships:
Step-Parent/Child relationships are no longer missing in the Genealogy Panel. Similarly, other cases of broken families in the Genealogy Panel have been fixed as well.- 5 years ago
This relationship decay/culling is so annoying. I don't want it in my game at all, I want stable relationships. My sims forget their friends, family members after short period of time (I have rotational gameplay, about 20 played households on one save). Please, could relationship decaying be an option to turn off in the menus? I hate it!
- 3 years ago
Hi, I'm having this exact problem too, my sim had a npc girlfriend and she lost any kind of relationship with her three times already, and every time the npc meets her, they start flirting the exact same way all the time, is like a loop, and also my sim lost not one, but all her friends, and events keep happening in repeat, the romance festival already happened like six times in three real life days I've played, and just today, my sim had to go to work three times sequentially, because apparently the game is not understanding that my sim has already gone to work that sim day.
Is like the game is not saving properly but I save my game every time I close the game.
Her needs also keep decaying as I travel through lots, every time I go to a new lot, her needs are super low and she passes out, even tho i just filled all the needs at maximum, idk how to solve this and I've been looking through internet and apparently this have been happening to other players since 2020 and still i Haven found any solution, i hope somebody can help me to fix this, is really annoying and repetitive and idk what to do.
I took off my mods to see if that was the problem, but nothing changed, is the same problem.
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