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starfishnchips's avatar
4 years ago

[ECO] [W] 'Free Love' NAP leads to nonconsensual fated mate pairings

Product: The Sims 4
Platform:PC
Which language are you playing the game in? English
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
What is your current game version number? 1.89.214.1030
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? Cottage Living, Snowy Escape, Eco Lifestyle, Discover University, Get Famous, Seasons, Cats & Dogs, City Living, Get Together, Get To Work, Werewolves, Dream Home, Realm of Magic, Jungle Adventures, Vampires, Dine Out, Spa Day, Outdoor Retreat, Paranormal, Moschino, Vintage Glam, Romantic Garden, Perfect Patio
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Take a sim to community lot and have them interact with others/watch the other sims interacting around you - particularly with werewolf sims.
What happens when the bug occurs? Sims flirt with each other like they would when the Eco "free love" NAP is active, even if NAPs are turned off. This also causes werewolf sims to get a mate almost instantly upon meeting another untethered werewolf.
What do you expect to see? Sims acting normally/not flirting all over the place randomly in the "free love" manner. Player choose to flirt with other werewolf sims to get their fated mate.
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Not now. I've removed them.
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Yes
Please describe the patch or change you made. Happened after installing Werewolves.

Every time I make a new werewolf sim and bring them out to a community lot they get paired up with a "fated mate" almost instantly with [just about] the first wolf they meet. From what I've read, players are supposed to control the ability to choose their wolf-sim's fated mate (assuming the flirt action works), but never the other way around - meaning it shouldn't happen to your sim randomly by being flirted with by other sims. This is particularly important due to werewolves only getting one fated mate ever. 

Example: I turned my sim Max into a werewolf and brought her to the Grimtooth Bar, where she met Lou Howell. I tried to have her chat him up to find info on being a werewolf/learn about wolf packs/etc. I did not have her flirt with him. However within moments of them meeting, he flirts with her and now she's his fated mate. Worst of all, and the reason I didn't have her flirt with him, is that she was already engaged to someone else. Now every time Max and her fiancé get romantic, she starts getting tense because the game thinks she's "cheating". She shouldn't even be Lou's fated mate in the first place. It was completely out of my control and happened without any warning. While her fiancé is a vampire, and thus they'd never be able to be "fated mates", it does also play havoc with the "one per customer rule", especially when you had no say in the matter. 

I also ran a test [in the attached screen shot] with a new wolf sim (Nayeli). After making her, I sent her to go meet the Volkov family (I also had moved another wolf into that house prior to this). After entering the house, Bell (my other wolf - on the left in the screen shot) immediately walks up to Nayeli (on the right) and flirts with her. They hadn't even introduced themselves yet when this happened, and I had no power to stop it. But there we are, fated mates... This near-instant, nonconsensual pairing has happened to all of my wolf sims now.

I believe this may stem from something interfering with the Eco pack. Wolves aren't the only ones who seem to be randomly flirting with people at will. When out at a community lot with a sim I notice the other sims around me, werewolf or otherwise, act the same way - like the Eco "free love" NAP is active. I have NAPs turned off to avoid this, but it's still happening, and could be the reason for the instant wolf-mate pairings happening via random sim flirts.

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  • khitteh's avatar
    khitteh
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago

    Happened to my (married already) werewolf guy, while I wasn't looking BAM! he's found his fated mate...not his wife.

    So I made the two get it on, the "fated mate" got pregnant, and her partner called the husband guy up a few days later to proudly report he'd had a baby (haha not your kid dummy! It was MY kid) but whatever 🙌

  • @starfishnchips Could you send me your save ?

    I can see the free love interfering with fated mate but since your issue sounds like free love shouldn't be there in the first place, I'd like to check some stuff.

    Instructions in my signature.
  • crinrict's avatar
    crinrict
    Hero+
    4 years ago

    So I check your save and you do seem NAPs active. 


    Are you sure you turned them off ? Or did you turn them off after some time ? Just turning off doesn't repeal the ones you already have.

    Hood your Sim lives in

    This would affect all lots in Moonwood Hills as there's only one Neighborhood.

    Do you have it in other worlds as well ?

    Best you can do is repeal all of these via cheat.

    I would still classify the Free Love NAP as an issue with the fated mate but at least there's an explanation why you see them happening.

  • Ah dang! Looks like I may not have gotten them turned off in time - I just got a new computer before Werewolves was released, and had to transfer everything over. It looks like "free love" got voted into being in Windeberg and Forgotten Hollow also before I could stop it. That is a big problem though, one I'm seeing other suffer now too, for a random sim to autonomously flirt with your sim and trigger the fated mates. Hopefully that'll get fixed soon!

    I also tried using the "modifyrelationship [sim1] [sim2] -100 sentimentTrack_Enamored_ST_FatedMates" cheat to see if I could remove the fated mates sentiment from my sims, but with no luck. Testingcheats is on, and to the best of my knowledge I have the code typed out correctly (was trying it with my test sim Jasper Dukes and the alpha Rory Oaklow) but alas. 💔

  • I'm using their full first & last names o/ for example modifyrelationship Jasper Dukes Rory Oaklow -100 sentimentTrack_Enamored_ST_FatedMates

  • crinrict's avatar
    crinrict
    Hero+
    4 years ago
    @starfishnchips What if you put 0 instead of -100 ? I haven't looked into the cheat at all so not sure if that would make a difference.
  • @crinrict That was the first thing I tried lol Other people seem to have success with it though, so could just be me.

    I know wiping saves is extreme, but I think it's the best option to remove the free love NAP/unwanted mates at this point. I've got just about everything backed up, so I won't loose too much.

    Here's to hoping EA addresses the free love NAP messing with fated mates issue o/
  • I've been having a similar, but not exact problem. I haven't had them all flirting non-stop autonomously, but if my sim does flirt or gets flirted with another werewolf they're instantly given Fated Mate with them. No control whatsoever. All it takes is one interaction.

  • crinrict's avatar
    crinrict
    Hero+
    4 years ago
    @Gr1mwolfS3 That's how it works though. That's not a bug. The chances seem very high that your first flirting results in a fated mate.

    You may want to post in the General Discussion as feedback for this.

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