Teen Sims that are Unflirty can now make out with other teens.
Fixed in Patch 1.55.105
I'm experiencing this now while playing as Darling Walsh from City Living. She's an unflirty teenager, and while sitting together on a couch she is able to choose the Make Out option available under romance options, but it immediately drops out of the queue without actioning.
If I'm on a lot with a closet, there is an option to Make Out in Closet while I'm talking to a romantic interest, but that just queues up and then drops away. Same thing if I actually click on the closet and try the make out sim picker option from that.
EDIT: to clarify, the options are not missing - they appear and can be selected, but fail immediately.
@crinrictSimGuruNick said they were able to reproduce the bug
EA StaffHello @comicsforever
I heard that this is by design.
This seems wrong.
The option is not missing from the menu. It’s there for unflirty sims but broken.
When I looked at the tuning files for it, I found that for unflirty sims there were no animation override references and continuation affordances associated with the potential outcomes for sims with the unflirty trait.
I made a fix mod that restores the missing parts and the interaction works normally.
So either the make out option should not be available at all for unflirty sims and hidden from the menu (which I don’t think is true because every other romance option is available); or it should be there but have working function/animation.
But you’re saying it’s by design supposed to appear in the menu, let you click on it, get immediate relationship boost but with no animation and it dropping out of the queue? I don’t think that is intentional 🤔
This is in the interaction tuning file for a regular sim using the make out social:
<U>
<U n="outcome">
<L n="basic_extras">
<V t="broadcaster">
<U n="broadcaster">
<L n="broadcaster_types">
<U>
<T n="item">134003<!--broadcaster_Reaction_WitnessedCrassAct_Unflirty--></T>
</U>
</L>
</U>
</V>
</L>
<L n="continuation">
<U>
<T n="affordance">26556<!--mixer_social_SitIntimate_MakeOut_targeted_looping--></T>
</U>
</L>
<L n="loot_list">
<T>10766<!--Gender_Preference_Loot--></T>
<T>10954<!--Loot_ForSocialsSocialMotiveMedium--></T>
<T>27854<!--Loot_Romantic_Affection_50--></T>
<T>32480<!--Loot_LTR_Romance_Medium_HighStrength--></T>
<T>37833<!--Loot_HotNHeavyCommodity_20--></T>
<T>32056<!--Loot_SocialContect_Fun_Loss_conditionalBoring_Medium--></T>
<T>24120<!--Loot_SocialContext_Romance_Gain--></T>
<T>76189<!--Loot_Commodity_CareerBenefit_Agent_Agent--></T>
<T>104567<!--loot_Relationship_Bit_KnowsIsAlien--></T>
<T>133108<!--loot_Buff_Trait_Unflirty_CrassAct--></T>
<T>133107<!--loot_Buff_Trait_Unflirty_Romance_Success--></T>
<T>154622<!--target_KnowTrait_Unflirty_Actor--></T>
<T>155126<!--Loot_KnowTrait_Unflirty--></T>
<T>195100<!--loot_Fame_CelebSocial_SuccessHighScore--></T>
</L>
</U>
<U n="weight">
<T n="base_value">2</T>
</U>
</U>This is in the same tuning file specifying an outcome for unflirty sims - suggesting that it IS intentional for unflirty sims to be able to make out:
<U>
<L n="potential_outcomes">
<U>
<U n="outcome">
<L n="basic_extras">
<V t="broadcaster">
<U n="broadcaster">
<L n="broadcaster_types">
<U>
<T n="item">134003<!--broadcaster_Reaction_WitnessedCrassAct_Unflirty--></T>
</U>
</L>
</U>
</V>
</L>
<L n="loot_list">
<T>10766<!--Gender_Preference_Loot--></T>
<T>10954<!--Loot_ForSocialsSocialMotiveMedium--></T>
<T>27854<!--Loot_Romantic_Affection_50--></T>
<T>11036<!--Rel_Gain_Small--></T>
<T>10900<!--Loot_LTR_Romance_Small--></T>
<T>23798<!--Loot_FlirtySocialCommodity_10--></T>
<T>32056<!--Loot_SocialContect_Fun_Loss_conditionalBoring_Medium--></T>
<T>24120<!--Loot_SocialContext_Romance_Gain--></T>
<T>76189<!--Loot_Commodity_CareerBenefit_Agent_Agent--></T>
<T>104567<!--loot_Relationship_Bit_KnowsIsAlien--></T>
<T>133107<!--loot_Buff_Trait_Unflirty_Romance_Success--></T>
<T>154622<!--target_KnowTrait_Unflirty_Actor--></T>
<T>155126<!--Loot_KnowTrait_Unflirty--></T>
<T>133108<!--loot_Buff_Trait_Unflirty_CrassAct--></T>
<T>9792<!--loot_Buff_Remove_Flirty--></T>
</L>
</U>
<U n="weight">
<T n="base_value">3</T>
</U>
</U>
</L>
<L n="tests">
<L>
<V t="test_set_reference">
<T n="test_set_reference">188306<!--testSet_FlowerArrangement_FaithfulTulipScent_ToFaithfulReceiver_Faithful--></T>
</V>
<V t="trait">
<U n="trait">
<E n="subject">TargetSim</E>
<L n="whitelist_traits">
<T>132589<!--trait_Unflirty--></T>
</L>
</U>
</V>
<V t="test_based_score_threshold">
<U n="test_based_score_threshold">
<T n="test_based_score">24565<!--scores_socialoutcomes_romance--></T>
<U n="threshold">
<E n="comparison">GREATER_OR_EQUAL</E>
<T n="value">11</T>
</U>
</U>
</V>
</L>
<L>
<V t="test_set_reference">
<T n="test_set_reference">188306<!--testSet_FlowerArrangement_FaithfulTulipScent_ToFaithfulReceiver_Faithful--></T>
</V>
<V t="trait">
<U n="trait">
<L n="whitelist_traits">
<T>132589<!--trait_Unflirty--></T>
</L>
</U>
</V>
<V t="test_based_score_threshold">
<U n="test_based_score_threshold">
<T n="test_based_score">24565<!--scores_socialoutcomes_romance--></T>
<U n="threshold">
<E n="comparison">GREATER_OR_EQUAL</E>
<T n="value">14</T>
</U>
</U>
</V>
</L>
</L>
</U>The unflirty version has it's own special loot specifically for unflirty sims, but it is missing the continuation affordance to go into a the makeout kissing loop, which is why the interaction just drops out of the queue and ends abruptly for unflirty sims. Similarly, the fail outcome for unflirty sims is missing the animation reference for a make out fail.
I hope this proves that this bug is real.
I've never played an unflirty sim before because I wasn't sure if I'd like the trait, but I thought I'd try it out recently and I ran into this bug with the first sim I had with this trait. She's a young adult that I made myself and gave the trait to.
