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3 years ago
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[GTW] Can't assign uniform to non-binary staff members

So we've discussed bathroom doors not being accessible to non binary Sims. We've discussed relationship and woohoo preferences being men/women. Today my Sim hired a non binary Sim for her retail lot and guess what? Couldn't assign them a uniform because it said there were no female staff/ no male staff. (Image included below)

Now I'm just an ally. But I felt a sickening feeling there.

So can we please start accommodating non binary Sims fully? Because it's like our game quite rightly added them...but didn't open everything up for them. Because this issue is way too sensitive a subject to do half measures.

The mechanics of the game need to catch up and I hope they do it soon.

It's just a staff uniform in this case, the uniform itself doesn't matter. They can wear their own clothes to the retail store. But it can easily be amended to "Uniform" without genders.

Product: The Sims 4
Platform:Xbox Series S
Which language are you playing the game in? English
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
What is your current game version number? 1.70.3.2310
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? Courtyard Oasis, Island Living, Luxury Party, Laundry Day, Snowy Escape, Vintage Glamour, Nifty Knitting, Jungle Adventure, Realm of Magic, Bowling Night, Cats and Dogs, My First Pet, Outdoor Retreat, Country Kitchen, Throwback Fit, Toddler, Dream Home Decorator, Fitness, Romantic Garden, Dine Out, Movie Hangout, Discover University, Gnome on the Go, Perfect Patio, Spa Day, Kids Room, Industrial Loft, Parenthood, Backyard, Strangerville, Moschino, Animal Hats, Tiny Living, City Living, Get Famous, Life of the Party, Get to Work, Up all Night, Cottage Living, Get Together, Seasons, Cool Kitchen, Grims Guitar, Incheon Arrivals, Fashion Street, Blooming Rooms, Paranormal, Eco Living, Decor to the Max, Carnaval Streetwear, Moonlight Chic, Wedding Stories, Desert Luxe, Pastel Pop, Everyday Clutter, Little Campers
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Hire a non binary staff member in a retail lot and try to assign a uniform. 
What happens when the bug occurs? There's a message telling you no male/female Sims work there so you can't assign a uniform.
What do you expect to see? I should be able to assign a uniform, maybe a gender neutral option would help.
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? On console - never used.
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Yes

Please describe the patch or change you made. The introduction of non binary Sims.

It seems straightforward to fix if uniforms could be gender neutral or have a gender neutral option alongside the male/female options. Thanks.

Edit By Crinrict: Added Tag to Title, Adjusted Title to better reflect the issue

  • Hi @simsplayer818,

    Thanks for flagging this. That's not something I've seen brought up before, I'll absolutely pass this feedback up to the team.

    Update: I spoke to some folk on this and we've already filed a bug report internally for this.

    Thank you again for bringing this to my attention so that we can make it right. 

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    simsplayer818
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    3 years ago
    @crinrict Yes I'll do that no problem. It will be next week as I don't have anything set up as yet. Soon as I test it I'll report back here. My Vet is the next Sim on the list as I'm currently rebuilding a lost game 😀.
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    simsplayer818
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    3 years ago

    I've very quickly tested this on a restaurant today. I turned a coffee shop into a restaurant and got my current Sims to buy it just for a short time. I staffed it with 2 out of the 3 staff being non binary. Because the uniforms are assigned automatically unlike the retail lots where you assign by gender manually, I didn't get the error message this time. I didn't edit the outfits because I wanted to test what would happen without interfering with the process. Next time I'll just edit them all to be gender neutral.

    I think the non binary chef looks perfectly acceptable in their outfit (attached). However the host's outfit wasn't quite as suitable going by their usual style. So since I couldn't assign a different outfit I exited to manage worlds and found the Sim in other households then changed their clothing preferences to masculine, that automatically changed the staff outfit when I went back to the game. It's not the most perfect solution but I think the results are maybe more appropriate. I'm just going from people in my own circle IRL in deciding what clothing would and wouldn't be appropriate but I know everyone is different and that's kind of the point. I think the problem was more that they had to wear the female uniform and they were put in a skirt. It reminded me of a similar story I was told recently of someone struggling with their identity and being told to put on a dress and deal with it, so I think that's why I'm invested in this process because of personal stories like that.

    I'm going to design gender neutral uniforms anyway and where I get the error message they can just be without uniforms. 

    Edit: I've now tested the Vet's too. I edited the chosen member of staff in Other Households to make them non binary. It worked just the same as the restaurant with uniform automatically assigned based on their clothing preferences from CAS. I didn't get an error message.

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