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richvh
Seasoned Veteran
11 months ago

[LS] [CCSP] Can not tell when you are proposing with a crafted ring

Product: The Sims 4
Platform:PC
Which language are you playing the game in? English
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
What is your current game version number? 1.108.349.1020 DX11
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? All the packs
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Have a Sim with a romantic partner, and either a crafted ring or a basic ring purchased from the Romantic Items store in their inventory. Propose to your romantic partner.
What happens when the bug occurs? There are two options to "Propose Early" with not distinction between proposing with and without a ring.
What do you expect to see? One of the options should clearly state that it is proposing with a ring.
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Not now, I've disabled them.
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Yes, the Lovestruck release.

After Crystal Creations came out, there was a Propose action under Romance and, if you had a crafted ring in your inventory, a Propose With Ring action, also under Romance. Now, after Lovestruck came out, there is a Propose Early action under Relationship and, if you have a crafted or purchased ring in your inventory, a second Propose Early action with no additional text. Only one of these will ask you which ring to propose with. The only way to be sure to check off the Gift Jewelry or Successfully Propose with Crafted Ring aspiration step in the Crystal Crafter aspiration Curious Collector milestone is to save, propose, and if you chose the wrong one, exit and reload and choose the other one.

What the heck does "Propose Early" mean anyway? Early compared to what?

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    richvh
    Seasoned Veteran
    11 months ago

    I added a screenshot of the relevant pie menu to the OP.

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    richvh
    Seasoned Veteran
    11 months ago

    After a breakup and working relations back high enough to re-propose, I saw that the male partner has Propose and Propose With Crafted Ring, while the female partner still has Propose Early.

    I guess the male Sim is expected to propose, and if the female sim proposes it's considered early? This is something new with Lovestruck, as I normally play female Sims and have frequently proposed with them, but never saw Propose Early before Lovestruck was released. Regardless, female sims need a visible option to propose with crafted rings.

  • @richvh 

    Propose early is just the name of the interaction for sims with the Lovebug trait. It just has a different name for them. (I assume it means you can propose earlier, with less pink / green relationship) than sims with other traits. 

    I looked into the file related to this. Because of this name change, you are seeing it many times because the interaction 'Propose' (regular), 'Propose in the Heat of the Moment' (confident) and 'Propose with a crafted ring' (CCSP) all are renamed to 'Propose Early' with the love bug trait. So if you meet the conditions for all these to appear at the same time, they will show as duplicates.

    The solution is for Maxis to either disable the other options from appearing, or to rename them to be different so you can tell which is which. 

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    richvh
    Seasoned Veteran
    11 months ago

    Renaming interactions that are part of a pack should be Maxis' responsibility. As far as I know, renaming them by anyone else would be done as a  mod, and I've never gotten far enough in modding Sims 4 to be able to do it. Plus console users can't use mods.

    As for eliminating alternatives, if you're trying for a proposal with a crafted ring, you can't eliminate the regular proposal without editing the prerequisites, which again would involve a mod if not done by Maxis.

    In short, this is a bug.

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