[NEEDS SAVES] [GT] Club leader is too old or dead, they're still the leader
Product: The Sims 4
Platform:PC
Which language are you playing the game in? English
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
What is your current game version number? 1.58.63.1010 (64 bit)
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? all available DLC
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Set up any club with age requirements, in my case elder and anyone younger than teens are not allowed. Play any member of the club that is in a different household than the current leader.
What happens when the bug occurs? When the leader sim age up and no longer fulfil the age criteria of the club, they will no longer show as a member, but they will still be considered the leader by the game (as proven by any interaction concerning the leadership). Then when the leader dies (in my case of old age, but probably doesn't matter how they die) leadership is still not handed over and the game still tells me they're in charge, but there is now no in-game mechanic to remove the leader as the sim is no longer in the world. If the leader is still alive, but too old to be a member of the club, you can switch to their household (as long as they're in the world still), but the club status will still not update until you select them.
What do you expect to see? When any sim no longer fulfils the requirement of a club, they should be removed from the club completely, no matter if they're in the active family or not.
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Not now. I've removed them.
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Neutral/Not Sure
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This has been going on for a while, definitely since July for sure, but I used to be able to get around the bug by switching to the leader's household. Now that I have a leader that is literally dead, it is a problem because there is no way to remove them from the club and I cannot change any club settings, can't change the hangout, can't kick anyone out, and so on. I now have 2 clubs with this problem. Basically the clubs have no leader, but the game thinks they do. This is even more annoying than all the clubs that disappear because the game won't on its own add members to clubs that aren't played (why are townies not allowed to be clubmembers?).
All my clubs with age restrictions were made long ago, and the oldest right after the Get Together DLC came out, so it's been up and down with issues from one patch after the other.
The automatic leadership change used to work, at least after it was fixed 2-3 years ago, but not entirely sure exactly when it stopped working (again).
Since the automation clearly isn't reliable and too easy to break, the game seriously needs a way for players to manually edit the clubs, similar to the family editing in manage worlds.
As far as I can tell from scattered testing, the game only kicks leaders out of the clubs and hand over the leadership if the leader is the active sim in the active family. In any other case it will only remove them from the roster, but they're still considered the leader.
EDIT: I found a save old enough that my club leader was still alive, but still too old to be a member. It correctly shows her as not a member of the club and that she doesn't qualify, but it still considers her the leader and shows no other leader. I can also still access the club settings with her and have the option to kick members out, BUT as soon as I click the checkmark to close the window, the game locks up with the spinning load/save circle in the middle of the screen.
Edit By Crinrict: Added Tag to Title
Marked as Solution for Visibility. This is still an open issue.
Hello All,
If anyone of you are still encountering this (without mods), would you be willing to share your save file(s)?
If so, please send me a private message with a link to the file.
Instructions here: http://x.ea.com/74420
Thanks!