Product: The Sims 4Platform:PCWhich language are you playing the game in? EnglishHow often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)What is your current game version number? 1.46.18.120What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? All of themSteps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Have a trait like loner and replace it with a different trait with the re-traiting potion.What happens when the bug occurs? The traits affect that was replaced with the re-traiting potion still lingers after it was replaced. Such as Romantic sims still getting the tense debuff from not flirting or loner sims keeping the solitude buff.What do you expect to see? The previous traits affects should no longer affect the sim once they are replaced.Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Not now. I've removed them.Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? No I figured this old problem would have been fixed with the added Re-traiting potion but this problem still exists. Edit By Crinrict: Adjusted Tag

Marked as Solution for Visibility Purposes Only If anyone is still seeing this issue we'd really appreciate if you could share a save file where you've seen it occurring. Feel free to DM me a link to the save, thanks so much for your help! http://answers.ea.com/t5/The-Sims-4-Bug-Reports/INFORMATION-How-to-Send-User-Files-to-The-Sims-4-Team/m-p/6065302

I've dowloaded a sim from the gallery and changed the traits. He was active and materialistic. I change them in CAS to bookworm and family oriented. In game I got the tense debuffs from materialistic and active traits so I bought the potion but the moodlets keep showing up.. ☹️

This was weird but I think I figured it out.@crinrict reapplying the trait DOES work. I seem to have several issues at once, but the sad buff was fixed.However, and this is interesting, I noticed that now I have stuck buffs from the INDEPENDENT trait that I used to replace the Charming trait initially. I no longer have the trait, so I know that's a leftover buff. So the bug persists, but now I am free from the negative consequences...for now.For anyone else who needs this help: by applying the Charming trait to my toddler, they were assaulted by a never ending moodlet. I replaced the trait in CAS, and with cheats, but the moodlet remained. I reinstalled (you might not need to) and I reapplied the Charming trait to the toddler, and THEN I interacted with family members. The moodlet finally went away. As for the adult sims I had with this problem, I cheated the trait back in using traits._apply_trait and interacted with family and friends, triggering the social need. This IS solving it for me.I think this means you need to reapply the trait that is related to the issue, if you have removed it, and then address the sims needs directly. I don't know if this will keep happening or not, but this works. The other issues are for another thread, I think. Thank you again, @crinrict

I've had this bug for a while in my main game, so I made a quick test in a fresh game..Game Version: 1.60.54.1020 (PC/English)Expansion/game/stuff packs: Seasons, Discover University, Parenthood, Outdoor Retreat, Vintage Glamour Stuff, Backyard Stuff, Movie Hangout StuffNo mods/CCI went with Romantic, Active, and Hot-Headed, as they seemed to produce negative moodlets fairly often.My first test (copying a sim before I played her), didn't produce results. I played the original and the copy for about a sim-day - she got angry and tense half a dozen times; he (I changed the gender so I could tell them apart) had no problems. Then I cloned the day-old family, changed her traits too, and moved them into a different lot (I did use freerealestate because they were broke). I played them for a couple of sim-days, and she got tense from Active (which she no longer has).Save file is at https://drive.google.com/open?id=1nDQ6ui-NBX_i_t3hyXhpu4UKVBdNK7yp - the original family is in Brightchester; the "shouldn't get tense" ones are in Willow Creek (I forgot I should've changed their names).

@crinrict I changed the traits in CAS after loading a sim from the library. I did not use cheats in CAS - the traits were freely editable at that point (before placing the sim in the world). I did use freerealestate because my test sims were broke and homeless. After the bug showed up, I used sims.give_satisfaction_points to test the retraiting potion to fix it.

[NEEDS SAVES] Removed traits still cause moodlets (no cheats used)

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Raynn0124
6 years ago
@crinrict I changed the traits in CAS after loading a sim from the library. I did not use cheats in CAS - the traits were freely editable at that point (before placing the sim in the world). I did use freerealestate because my test sims were broke and homeless. After the bug showed up, I used sims.give_satisfaction_points to test the retraiting potion to fix it.
Zack4358
6 years ago
As far as I know, it is not possible by simply removing and adding traits via CAS. If you only remove the trait via CAS, it still causes the moodlet. If you cheat with the command "traits.remove_trait [trait]" and "traits.equip_trait [trait]", the trait will be fully removed. You equip the removed trait via cheat and then remove it again via cheat.
For me, this worked several times because I do this regularly to test out traits.
acissej324
6 years ago
Product: The Sims 4
Platform:PC
Which language are you playing the game in? English
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
What is your current game version number? 1.61.15.1020
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? I have every pack except Moschino, magic stuff, and tiny living.
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Have a toddler with either the Independent Trait, or the Charmer Trait. Wait for them to get sad. (this is not restricted to toddlers, and this is not restricted to this moodlet.)
What happens when the bug occurs? Several moodlets do not go away regardless of the state of the Sim.
What do you expect to see? I expect moodlets to disappear when I satisfy the sims needs. I expect the measures I take to remove it to work.
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Not now. I've removed them.
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Yes
Please describe the patch or change you made. I reinstalled Windows, Origin, and Sims 4 in a brand new, fresh clean install with NO MODS or any third party content whatsoever. The game was working properly for a period of two days. Now MANY sims, Adults and toddlers, are stuck in unhappy moods because of these moodlets.
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Several moodlets do not go away regardless of the state of the Sim and it's breaking the game.
Many people know about the hanging Lovelorn trait, when a Sim without the romantic trait becomes Lovelorn despite EVERY effort. This is that, but more so. I'm having issues with school moodlets, the pregnancy moodlet, and the fire moodlet.
The toddlers in my game are all sad. Several adults are sad. They are all afflicted by the "Where is Everyone?" social moodlet. There is NO timer for this moodlet. It shows up REGARDLESS of the social needs of the child at any time. It WILL NOT GO AWAY regardless of any cheats, mods, cache clearing, removal of all CC content, fresh reinstalling, even changing the traits of the Sims in CAS, removing the traits in CAS, removing the traits with cheats....nothing.
Toddlers are taken away for being unhappy too long. Teens are Tense for 24 hours and refuse to eat or sleep. This is a game breaker. I have seen reports about this issue from 2016, and this is still NOT solved.
Now MANY sims, Adults and toddlers, are stuck in unhappy moods because of these moodlets. I have to keep spamming "make happy" cheats so the "feels good" moodlets will override the sad.
I have cleanly reinstalled, down to my operating system. This installation has been running on absolutely no mods. I am well within the hardware requirements for this game, I have owned this computer and the account for years. I'm going to pull my hair out.
nickienok
6 years ago
Try the resetsim cheat and see if that resolves it
Testingcheats on
Resetsim *
Hope it works. Enjoy
acissej324
6 years ago
@nickienok thank you thats a great suggestion, gave it a hearty four attempts but no dice
nickienok
6 years ago
Have you tried clearing your game cache? That may solve it?
acissej324
6 years ago
@nickienok yes, thanks i did do that earlier, but my cache folder was empty already, i cleared the rest, but no.
nickienok
6 years ago
Booooo. How about using rewards to buy the moodlet resolver, just to see if that works to reset it? I know you'll have to buy one for each sim if it works but it may just do the trick to clear their moods?
acissej324
6 years ago
@nickienok now THAT's a great suggestion, thanks again, but I went in and gave it a shot, and wouldn't you know it-- after the potion wears off, the moodlets reappear. I mean...WOW.
crinrict
Hero+
6 years ago
@acissej324 Does this happen on every save game you play or a particular one only ? If it's just a particular save, is it all households in that save or just a particular one ?

Would you mind sending me your save ? Just upload to google or one drive and PM me the link.

Lovelorn has a thread here: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/NEEDS-INPUT-A-Lovelorn-Moodlet-without-romantic-trait/td-p/7993884/

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