Product: The Sims 4Platform:PCWhich language are you playing the game in? EnglishHow often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)What is your current game version number? 1.99.264.1030What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? All except Werewolves, Strangerville, Vampires, Paranormal, Spooky and Grim's Gloulish Guitar.Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? By having households with five sims or more.What happens when the bug occurs? Household images with five sims or more are significantly smaller than households with four sims or less.What do you expect to see? This problem resolved.Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Never used.Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? YesPlease describe the patch or change you made. The recent update. Get this, after the recent update I noticed that households with five sims or more in my inventory are smaller than households with four sims or less. I wish I could show what I'm talking about but no matter what I do I can't get the file of this image in here, so anyone who sees this just has to believe me. Edit By Crinrict: Added Tag to Title

Product: The Sims 4Platform:PCWhich language are you playing the game in? EnglishHow often does the bug occur? Often (50% - 99%)What is your current game version number? 1.99.264.1030What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? All of themSteps: How can we find the bug ourselves? View the gallery newest uploads and filter for larger households.What happens when the bug occurs? The gallery image is zoomed out very far now. I estimate the larger households (5+ sims) gallery view has been decreased by almost half. The larger households look silly, like they are miniature dolls.What do you expect to see? I expect to see the original standard distance/perspective/zoom/balance that larger households have always been set to in the gallery image/thumbnail.Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Not now. I've removed them.Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? YesPlease describe the patch or change you made. This happened after the 7/18/23 patch.BEFORE:AFTER:I spotted this super tiny new viewpoint of large households yesterday in Dragonspie's catalog. Then again today with these 2 viewpoints of 12Mich06 households.Here is a random view of the newest uploads:

Product: The Sims 4Platform:PCWhich language are you playing the game in? SvenskaHow often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)What is your current game version number? 1.99.264.1030What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? All packs. Kits: Carnaval Streetwear, Moonlight Chic, Desert Luxe.Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Move sims between households, make sure to at least make one household with 5 or more sims.What happens when the bug occurs? The household thumbnail turns tiny.What do you expect to see? The household thumbnail being the size as before the patch.Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Never used.Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? YesPlease describe the patch or change you made. Patch 1.99.264.1030 (18th of July 2023 patch)This only happens when moving sims between households. Untouched households keep their correctly sized thumbnail.What it looks like after moving sims between households to create a household that is 5+ sims:Comparison with an untouched household with 5+ sims:

I finally managed to get an image of what I'm talking about in here

I investigated this issue and found the culprit (thanks to MizoreYukii for helping me!):The update changed the camera settings in these two files:auHousehold_Far (Instance-ID „FA54C636F16E3D34”)auHousehold_Far_Odd (Instance-ID “35B92B6C248C80B6”)(One is used for households with even number of sims, the other one for households with odd number of sims.)Changing the parameters back to the way they were before the update fixes the described issue.However, I now also believe EA actually did this on purpose to account for horses. Although, as far as I can tell, they could have done it differently and I don't think this is an appropriate solution:Households with 5+ sims and a horse use the same settings as 5+ sims households without horses. (Although there are extra settings for a lesser amount of sims which, in my opinion, would be also the preferred option for bigger households!).This means though, as Crinrict suggested before, that when you apply the old settings, the horse doesn't always fit properly.I shared a mod fix with the old settings as well as an adjusted version with a compromise/in-between version that zooms out a bit more to account for the horses but not as much as EAs solution. You can find it on my Tumblr (can't link it here as it's against the rules).But I still think this needs an official fix, even if done on purpose. Ideally, households with horses would always be treated differently than households without horses. The way it is now is not a good look for the game - to the degree where people assume that something's broken. (Also, same thing for the foal thumbnails, it looks like they need some recalibration at least.)On a personal note, I cared enough to investigate this issue because, on top of household thumbnails being messed up in general, this change also damaged some of the custom Gallery poses (mine as well as those from other creators) and people have been messaging me about it (and probably will continue to).

Just a few points to add:I don't think this is related to whether it's an old or new household.I think the reason that people are noticing this when editing a household or moving sims, is simply because that's when the game is forced to generate new thumbnails for the household.The game uses old thumbnails as long as the household doesn't change.I'm also noticing that this starts happening when there are at least 5 adult sims in the household (haven't tested other household constellations so far). The zoom for 1-4 sims is still the same as it was before (I'm gonna call it zoom level 1). But as soon as the game changes to zoom level 2 with 5 or more sims, it now applies a larger zoom out than before.I do think this is (indirectly) related to horses, but I don't think this is an intended feature, but more likely an oversight.

[OPEN] Some households images are smaller than others

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crinrict
Hero+
2 years ago
@RaniaKpop ~~That's normal cause of the space available. Depending on your resolutions the portraits get smaller if you have more Sims to fit them properly on the screen.~~

~~Your screenshot is probably too big and you just need to make it smaller to upload.~~

NVM, thought you were talking about the portraits.
SqueamishNerd
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
Product: The Sims 4
Platform:PC
Which language are you playing the game in? Svenska
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
What is your current game version number? 1.99.264.1030
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? All packs. Kits: Carnaval Streetwear, Moonlight Chic, Desert Luxe.
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Move sims between households, make sure to at least make one household with 5 or more sims.
What happens when the bug occurs? The household thumbnail turns tiny.
What do you expect to see? The household thumbnail being the size as before the patch.
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Never used.
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Yes
Please describe the patch or change you made. Patch 1.99.264.1030 (18th of July 2023 patch)
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This only happens when moving sims between households. Untouched households keep their correctly sized thumbnail.
What it looks like after moving sims between households to create a household that is 5+ sims:
Comparison with an untouched household with 5+ sims:
RaniaKpop
2 years ago
That's not exactly what I'm getting at, what's happening with me is that whenever I edit the household (say change an outfit or the appearance of one or all the sims) not adding more to the household, the images gets smaller. Again I wish I could put an image in this reply but I'm being told that the file is too big to be put in despite my efforts to make the file small enough to fit.
RaniaKpop
2 years ago
I finally managed to get an image of what I'm talking about in here
crinrict
Hero+
2 years ago
This might actually be by design cause once horses are added to the household, there might be an issue with larger families.

Is this pre-patch game or did you start a new one ?
RaniaKpop
2 years ago
I started this file 2 months ago.
crinrict
Hero+
2 years ago
@RaniaKpop OK. just asking cause mine are smaller without editing anything but I started a new save. So maybe yours only starts reverting to the new look once you edit them.
RaniaKpop
2 years ago
That's doesn't exactly account for the households with four sims or less, they seem fine.
crinrict
Hero+
2 years ago
@RaniaKpop Yes, I'm just theorizing here but the more Sims and horses and whatever you have the more crowded it gets so maybe they just generally made the household picture smaller for larger households so horses can fit in.
GLovely1
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
Product: The Sims 4
Platform:PC
Which language are you playing the game in? English
How often does the bug occur? Often (50% - 99%)
What is your current game version number? 1.99.264.1030
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? All of them
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? View the gallery newest uploads and filter for larger households.
What happens when the bug occurs? The gallery image is zoomed out very far now. I estimate the larger households (5+ sims) gallery view has been decreased by almost half. The larger households look silly, like they are miniature dolls.
What do you expect to see? I expect to see the original standard distance/perspective/zoom/balance that larger households have always been set to in the gallery image/thumbnail.
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Not now. I've removed them.
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Yes
Please describe the patch or change you made. This happened after the 7/18/23 patch.
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BEFORE:
AFTER:
I spotted this super tiny new viewpoint of large households yesterday in Dragonspie's catalog. Then again today with these 2 viewpoints of 12Mich06 households.
Here is a random view of the newest uploads: