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DizzyDee-K
Seasoned Ace
11 months ago

Permanent 'Near Unfriendly' moodlet after autonomous mean Interactions

Product: The Sims 4
Platform:Mac
Which language are you playing the game in? English
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
What is your current game version number? 1.108.349.1220
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? All
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Wait for a played Sim to be autonomously mean to another played Sim
What happens when the bug occurs? They permanently acquire the "Near Unfriendly" moodlet.
What do you expect to see? I expect the "Near Unfriendly" moodlet to go away once the Sims have apologized.
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Yes
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Yes
Please describe the patch or change you made. This started to be an issue after DU and became ubiquitous after LS

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Even though there has been a patch to tone down autonomous "Mean" interactions, the damage done is permanent. The invisible "Near Unfriendly" moodlet never goes away. This prompts Sims to continue to be autonomously "Mean" and gives a near permanent menu item to "Apologize." 

This started with the "Taunt about University Superiority" with DU and has never gone away. 

The only fix for ridding Sims of the invisible "Near Unfriendly" moodlet is to use a cheat to completely delete their relationship and hope they aren't autonomously mean to each other in the future.

"Apologizing" does not remove the invisible moodlet and it can't be removed with a cheat to "remove moodlet." 

This is one of those accreting issues. It doesn't really seem to harm the game but it's annoying. And after the recent spate of autonomous meanness, it seems like all my Sims secretly hate each other. Lovestruck indeed.

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  • Bra1nBlast3d's avatar
    Bra1nBlast3d
    Seasoned Veteran
    11 months ago

    This buff does not drive autonomy whatsoever. You might have stuck sentiments from when your sims were being meant to each other, which does drive further autonomous mean interactions. The drivers for autonomous mean interactions can be any of the following:

    • The conversation is going poorly (Very Awkward, Insufferably Tedious, Offensive, Abhorrent, Disasteful)
    • Mood
    • Whether the sims have broken up
    • If the sims have a negative friendship level
    • If the sim is Evil, Mean, or Erratic
    • If the sim has a tense Secret Society sprite (From Discover University)
    • If the sim has a Bitter or Furious sentiment toward another

    If none of the above are the case, then sims will not be autonomously mean to each other. There's a bug in the game where sentiment relationship bits get stuck for far longer than they show in the UI, driving sims to be mean to each other for reasons that aren't immediately obvious.

    This buff is simply a proximity buff that appears when around a sim with -10 to -100 friendship, which is the same range that drives autonomous mean interactions.

  • SimmerForever13's avatar
    SimmerForever13
    9 months ago
    @Bra1nBlast3d Hi! I wanted to ask, is it normal for this proximity buff to exist when around sims that have a positive friendship? because it does appear and i’m a little bit confused. they have zero negative sentiments (and zero hidden sentiments too) and they never acted mean towards eachother, so i’m a bit confused as to why it’s there?

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