Re: [BY DESIGN] "Set as Front Door" Problems

Does your house have a foundation ? Did you try the suggestions in this thread ?

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• We fixed an issue that was causing the Set as Front Door interaction to become missing on homes with a raised foundation.

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This was addressed in patch 1.24.102

Letting @BryonyRae test it before marking as fixed.

@Ethyrdude@crinrict I have tested this, and I'd say that it's...conditionally fixed.  What I mean by that is if any of the exterior doors do not have access to the ground via a stairway, they cannot be set to front.  In most cases, this won't be an issue, because, of course, builders will add stairs to their porches/decks/etc.  However, if they try to set a different front door before they add stairs, they won't be able to, so it might be a timing issue. 

Also, one other thing to mention.  If you have changed your default front door setting prior to elevating the foundation, the game will revert it back to what it considers the front door (it probably did this pre-patch, but we couldn't tell), and you will need to set it again (after placing stairs!).

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@BryonyRae @crinrict

It looks like we already have these other cases in our list.  Thanks though 🙂

Going with partly fixed then

I run into a similar problem like this. It is a rebuilded starterhouse, two foundation units, one front door.

I can set the front door as front door, this isn´t the problem.

After I´ve bilded a veranda on the backside of the house leading to the garden AND setting a staircase to the garden, the backdoor changes marked as front door on unknown circumstances.

Deleating the staircase in the back solves the problem. ( I don´t want this because my Sims need to go all around the house for having fun in the Garden 😉 

I tried several things, building the deck over the front door veranda back, changeing the door in build mode, close the backdoor for everyone except family members, move the backdoor to another wall on the back, building a deck over the back veranda and much more, nothing helped.

Any tips for this issue?

@JochenWeiss I tried to duplicate what you describe in my game, but creating a deck and staircase in the back did not change my front door settings.  Once I had both sides set up, I could also switch the front door back & forth between the two doors, as I would expect.

Have you tried removing mods/CC, clearing your cache, repairing the game via Origin, and starting a new save, then testing the build in that save?

If that doesn't help, would you be willing to upload your build to the Gallery for testing?  Just name it something like "Test Front Door Problem," and I can download it and take a closer look.  Set it up with the structure you want it to have but that isn't working out for you.

Hi,

thx for helping me 😉 I don´t play with mods and did everything already you suggested except a new save. This I will do but it isn´t a solution for me because I want my house working in the save I´m already in.

I´ve loaded it up as "Test Front Door Problem", my ID is JochenWeiss.

Maybe you need to play for a while until the front door changes for itself to the backdoor.

If you can´t reproduce it I can load up my whole save for you if you want.

Kind regards 

Jo

@JochenWeiss I downloaded your build from the Gallery.  Upon placement, everything was as I would expect - front door was set properly.  I could set the other door to the front and then set the front back to front again.  I played for a while, and there were no changes.  The Welcome Wagon came to the front door.  I invited them in, and they came in through the correct door.  I traveled and then came back; no changes.  Saved and exited, then reloaded the game; again, no changes.

You say you tested it in a new save.  Did you immediately experience the issue in that save?  If not, how long did it take, and can you retrace your steps for me in terms of what you might have done in your game that I didn't in mine (as described above)?  Oh, and are you using a specific lot?  If so, have you tried this on a different lot?  I placed your build on the Goth's lot in my game.

@BryonyRaeYou are right, I´ve tested it on the Goth Lot too an everything works fine. Didn´t thought its depend on a specific lot.

My house, original save and in my new save for testing is on the "Bargain-Biegung" (german name, see pic below)

I only play for a while (maybe three Sims days) also on speed 3, didn´t do something specific, maybe go into build mode, changed something and back, nothing more.

If you try it please look if the front door is the front door after placing the house on the lot. It should be, like it was on the Goth Lot but I´m not shure  if it was the same after placing it on the Bargain Lot.

Thx, waiting for your results 😉

@JochenWeiss No, when I placed your build on that particular lot, the front door was not set as the front door.  However, I was able to set it as the front door with no issues, and that setting did not change as I played.  I think the issue is occurring because that particular lot is a 30x20 widthwise instead of lengthwise, as (it appears) you built the house.  I think when a house that was built on a vertical 30x20 gets placed on a horizontal 30x20, the game may get confused and "guesses" at which is the front door.  I don't think this particular issue has anything to do with foundation; when I drop it to zero, save the build (from the Goth lot) and then place it on the Bargain Basement lot, it still swaps the front door designation.  It's just a lot orientation issue. 

I think the real question might be whether front door designations are intended to be saved no matter how/where a build is placed (i.e. different orientation, different sized lot, etc.  If so, we've got a bug; if not, maybe just an unfortunate side effect of design decisions.  I'll see if I can get some feedback on it, but it's probably best posted in its own thread, vs. this one which is specific to elevated foundations.

@BryonyRaeI´ve started the household on "Sreamlet Single" (lengthwise) and after I need more space for the garden I´ve placed the whole lot on "Bargain Bend" (widthwise). Sry for not to tell this before. So your theory could be correct. 

Btw I never thought it could be a foundation problem and never had a problem to set the front door, I only used the thread because I had a problem with the front door too. Maybe it is possible by a mod to separate my post into an new thread?

Because we have the option to place complete lots every place (if space is enough) and direction it should be a bug.

I think atm there is no solution for my lot?

Would be nice to hear from you if you got feedback on it 😉

EDIT: If you look at the whole map and the front door directions of the other houses in that street it "should" be on the long side of the Bargain Lot (design decision!?), but as written before, this distracts with the option to rotate and change direction of lots ...

I´ve changed the layout of my lot, so the front door is on the long side now and it still works. Will let you know if everything changes in the next few game hours 😉 (Hope not) 

@JochenWeiss I think I will just retool this thread a bit to track the additional issues, as they do all relate to setting the front door.  No, I don't think there is any solution currently for your lot other than for people to manually set the front door after they have downloaded and placed it, if they place it on a lot where it isn't set properly by default.  As a builder, I wouldn't worry about that too much though; maybe just add a comment about it when/if you upload it.

@BryonyRaeHi, as I wrote im my edit before, the solution for me was to rearrange my lot and set the house lengthwise (rotate it 90 degree) according to the other houses in the street. It works so far 😉 I usually don´t upload my houses so this shouldn´t be a problem.

The point is that the bug still exists. After you can download my lot and set the front door and it didn´t change during gameplay it has to be the way I build the house. 

Maybe you or someone else could test it in his own save and start a house on "Sreamlet Single" (lengthwise) with only a front door and than move it to "Bargain Bend" lot (widthwise) and set a back door, veranda and staircase too. If the front door automatically changes to the back door during gameplay we know there is a bug.

Greetings

Jo 

Yes, I already tested and saw that @JochenWeiss, so I've got it listed as an issue on the index for front door problems on this thread.