Re: [FIXED] [ECO] NAPs from all neighbourhoods are applied to visiting NPCs

N.A.P system is broken. How it made it to public release is unexplainable and unjustifiable, it was rushed and not tested. It breaks other packs as well. Try running a retail store or restaurant and watch your employees and customers make out with each other, then get into fights every half hour, then stand there playing with clay. I have yet to be this frustrated with a pack, one that truly disrupts and breaks gameplay not only of itself but other packs as well.

I tried simvasions mods but it does unfortunately little in some cases, sims autonomy keeps misbehaving. 

Best solution is if other neighborhoods in other worlds already have these silly ridiculous acts is to go to a house in that neighborhood, use testingcheats and shift click on the mailbox to instant repeal everything. Pair that with disabling N.A.P NPC voting in the settings. They should've allowed the cheat to work for non resident sims, it's tedious to have to go neighborhood by neighborhood. Or if you use MCCC use the Tuner to disable the autonomy actions you don't want.

I wish I knew how to mod well enough to just completely disable the system. Beyond frustrated.

I'm on PC, I have disabled Eco Lifestyle game play. Open origin - right click on Sims 4 icon - click game properties - click advanced launch options - type in the command argument  options 

  -disablepacks:EP09  (you need the hyphen before the command)  then save. Relaunch your game. The Eco Lifestyle is disabled. When EA have sorted out the problems Just remove the disable pack message. Relaunch game and Eco is enable again.

On consoles the fix is quite simple: make a backup of your saved data, possibly on the Cloud (you never know...). Delete your game and redownload it all but Eco. It's some 25GB total.

Once you load your game you will get a warning that some content is missing and your characters/lots could be missing clothes and items. Accept that and, magic, no more push ups, cakes, water, and all that stuff.

Of course, if you were playing in that world and/or if you had plans with Bess... you need to reconsider.

It takes a bit of time (exact amount depends on how many active households in a save), but it is possible to "rescue" a save AND keep Eco enabled (using cheats, but no mods, so should work on console too):

1. Turn off NPC voting
2. Enter the "testingcheats enable" cheat code
3. Go into every neighbourhood that's had played Sims living there since Eco came out and repeal all the annoying NAPs (shift-click the mailbox)
4. Make a list of all the Sims that need fixing (and which NAPs they are afflicted with)
5. While playing on a different household, invite those Sims over (new social event category - NAP repeal party).  If it's a long list, invite them in groups by NAP
6. While the afflicted Sims are on the lot, cheat enact the NAP(s), then immediately cheat repeal it (shift-click the mailbox)
7. Send them home (or enjoy a social visit)
8. Repeat until all Sims are clean.  Most NPCs probably won't make the list, but you can do this again at any point you notice Sims being weird(er than usual)
9. Check the inventories of your Sims for things they'll play with even without prompting (clay, mostly)

Steps 4-8 can be replaced with "save your game; disable/uninstall Eco; play/save your game without it; re-enable/install Eco" - which may be faster in some cases, but is also destructive if you've been using any of the content over the past month.  Steps 1-3 still need to be done *first* - or the NAPs will still be in place when you re-enable Eco.

It took me about a week of playing to stop freaking out every time my Sims did anything on their own (active/energized Sims still work out; most Sims with access to clay will play with it; hungry Sims will cook - although usually not cake).  Also, the game still gives a notification that a random NAP won the voting every week (unless you have 4 already), but if you check active NAPs, it doesn't actually happen.

To retain sanity, you probably shouldn't enact the NAPs that push autonomous actions (about 2/3 of them) until this gets patched.  The commodity that pushes the actions can get stuck to Sims when they're out and about as non-actives (visiting/hosting your active household, or just wandering around the neighbourhood), so if the NAPs are in place, they'll start sticking again.  I usually go with Clean Energy Production, Eco-Friendly Appliances, Green Gardening (autonomous gardening is from the Self-Sufficiency NAP, not this one, oddly enough), Upcycling Initiative - even if I'm not compliant, the fines offset the ridiculously low taxes they have now. 🙂

I don't understand any of this as it seems to the same problem mentioned some time ago in another Topic. What is going on and where are EA. No patch to fix any of these problems. My Legal Team say I am entitled for a complete refund on any Expansion Packs or Updates that have led to these or other problems. I live in the UK and is not up to me to repair this game as it is not fit for purpose.

Kind regards James

You can request a refund. I thought about requesting a refund but I didn't qualify.

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