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Re: [FIXED] [HSY] Sim Still Holds Fear of being afraid of the dark after Being Cured

After trying a few things on this thread, here are the steps I found worked for me to consistently stop the moodlet  from coming back:

  1. Make sure your sim does have the 'Fear of the dark' trait (should show up at the bottom of the traits list in the sim profile bottom right ). If they do not have the trait but you are still getting the moodlet, add the fear trait using the cheat console with the command traits.equip_trait trait_fear_dark . When you add it you should see a notification like when the sim gets the fear so you know it worked, or just check the trait list.
  2. Once they have the trait, make sure your sim doesn't have the fear moodlet active. Go inside and wait it out (lasts 4 sim hours) or hide under sheets a few times to get rid of it faster (annoyingly you can't do this if there are positive moodlets getting in the way so make sure to expand the moodlets to check that it is gone, moodlet solvers don't work for it either smh).  
  3. Once the moodlet is gone, wait for daytime before going outside, go outside during day hours for a bit to see if the moodlet pops up, you should only need to wait like 30 seconds:
    • If the moodlet does not appear while outside during the day, yay,  you should be good.  You should immediately remove the fear with command traits.remove_trait trait_fear_dark, the moodlet should not come back while outside at night. 
    • If the moodlet does appear, then remove it but you'll have to start over from step 1 until it doesn't. Basically just removing and re-equipping the fear until it works, but note I will usually save and reload the game between each try, I'm not sure if that part is actually necessary, but at least I can say I have used this on 3 different sims and it has worked either the first or second time. Hopefully that means it shouldn't take too many tries for it to work.

 A couple of things that may be important:

-I'm on console (PS4), so obviously no mods and also only have the base game installed, no DLC yet.

-In case you need it, to activate the cheat command prompt on console you press all the shoulder buttons together (ie. L1+R1+L2+R2 on PS4), be careful while doing this to not accidentally select another sim, make sure the active sim is the one you need to use it on.

-Note that you do NOT have to have testingcheats on for the above trait commands to work, not sure if that factors in to the workaround being effective, but at least I have it off and the commands to remove and equip traits still work

-The glitch seems obviously related to something that will cause the moodlet to appear during the day regardless of having the trait or not, which is why i take the extra step to get rid of it, waiting for daytime to check, etc. Removing/Re-equipping the trait (i guess) will reset whatever it is glitches it out and so far it seems totally random whether it will happen or not.

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  • undiluted's avatar
    undiluted
    Seasoned Vanguard
    3 years ago

    Tried the solution at https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/LL-HSY-Sim-Still-Holds-Fear-of-being-afraid-of-the-dark-after/m-p/11998590#M234619ith using MCCC to expedite the process, but "Fear of the Dark" trait is not accessible for the Sim in question. It doesn't seem to exist as a trait on the Sim, but also doesn't show up in the list of traits that can be added (other fears like Fear of Death do show in the list, just not the one for Dark). The direct testingcheat traits.equip_trait trait_fear_dark does nothing. Meanwhile the moodlet keeps coming back even with Wants & Fears turned off in the gameplay settings. Not a fun time.

  • Just a theory, is it possible that they reason you can't equip the fear of dark trait is that your sim has the 'brave' trait? I haven't tried this and that particular bug hasn't happened to me but I think not being able to equip the trait has to be something particular to that sim so it's worth testing out, either the brave trait or some other trait blocking it, and having the wants and fears setting flag turned on or off.

    That being said i can't believe this still hasn't been fixed

  • undiluted's avatar
    undiluted
    Seasoned Vanguard
    3 years ago
    @UnsecretIdentity Nice catch, the Sim in question DOES have the brave trait. I'll see if I can get rid of it and if that lets me effect the fix.
  • undiluted's avatar
    undiluted
    Seasoned Vanguard
    3 years ago
    @UnsecretIdentity Thanks, that fixed it. Removed the Brave trait and made sure wants were enabled, which let me add the Fear of the Dark trait. First attempt to remove it didn't work but the second time I got a whim prompt to be confident while in the dark, so I had my Sim drink a confidence potion while outside at night and that seems to have gotten rid of both the moodlet and the fear entirely. Fingers crossed that it sticks!
  • PurpleCosmonauts's avatar
    PurpleCosmonauts
    Rising Vanguard
    3 years ago

    @UnsecretIdentitysadly I don't think that's the case. I got the "fear of the dark" moodlet stuck and looping on my sim (Kyle Kyleson from the most recent Growing Together EP) and he doesn't have the 'Brave' trait, but the fear of the dark itself still doesn't show on his simology panel, thus I can't cure it or cheat it away at all. It's super annoying. ☹️

  • ChelleBelle716's avatar
    ChelleBelle716
    Seasoned Veteran
    3 years ago

    @UnsecretIdentity

    Thank you! I followed your steps and so far, so good. It seems to have broken the endless cycle of my child sim being afraid of the dark even when she no longer had the fear. :-)

  • UnsecretIdentit's avatar
    UnsecretIdentit
    3 years ago

    @PurpleCosmonauts as i mention on the previous post where i listed the steps to follow, if your sim gets the moodlet but does not have the fear trait in the simology, you should be able to add it using the traits command, traits.equip_trait trait_fear_dark  Having the 'brave' trait simply seems to prevent that from working, but if your sim doesn't have 'Brave' you should be able to equip it and follow the steps to see if you can solve the issue. Hope that helps.

  • Kleeways's avatar
    Kleeways
    New Novice
    3 years ago

    I just wanted add to this thread because I've discovered a hidden buff that was causing the solution you provide to fail where the Brave trait had been equipped even if removed.

    My sim had the Brave trait equipped so I removed this. When I equipped the Fear of the Dark trait, I recieved a notification that my sim had the trait but the trait wasn't properly equipped. It wasn't showing in the Sim's traits panel under Simology and the steps to remove it weren't successful since the fear of the dark Buff kept returning.

    However, I use Deaderpool's mod that enables both traits AND buffs to be removed or applied at will and I happened to notice that my Sim had a hidden buff entitled "Currently Fearless" which I am guessing was related to the Brave trait and wasn't removed when the trait was de-equipped for some reason - I used the cheat rather than the mod to de-equip the trait so others using the cheat may be having the same problem. I don't know if using the mod to de-equip the trait would have removed the hidden buff. I suspect not. Anyway, I removed the hidden buff using the mod and hey presto the Fear of Dark trait could now be properly equipped and all the steps taken to remove it were successful.

    Once the fear of the dark trait had been removed following the steps provide by Unsecret Identity, I was able to re-equip the Brave trait and the fear of the dark Buff has not returned.

    I hope this might help someone who's having trouble. Unfortunately, unless EA actually fix this, it seems that the issue with the glitch caused by the Brave trait can't be fixed without Deaderpool's mod or something similar that allows hidden buffs to be viewed and removed.

  • halloweenchild13's avatar
    halloweenchild13
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @UnsecretIdentity Thanks, this really helped. My only issue now is that the sim who had the moodlet stuck now won't stop running "scared" everywhere. It's super annoying.
  • UnsecretIdentit's avatar
    UnsecretIdentit
    3 years ago

    @halloweenchild13 YW. Though it sounds like you still have the glitch since you're still getting the moodlet, i would recommend trying to go thru the steps until you don't get the moodlet anymore.

  • crinrict's avatar
    crinrict
    Hero+
    3 years ago

    Sims that confront their fear of the dark will not continue to be affected by the Afraid of the Dark Scared Moodlet buff.

    Fixed in Patch 1.97.42/1.73

    If you're still experiencing this issue, please create a new thread.

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