Re: [FIXED] Sims lose their first and last names

Thanks to the tool Show Sims4 Info I could track them all down ( Sims with name issues). From 370 Sims in my game, 30 of them lost either their whole names, first or surenames.

The tool also spits out a Warning log file with the ID numbers of all the Sims with missing name issues. - very helpful.

Here are two picture examples of how it looks:

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I have already fixed 6 nameless sims (not showing in these picture examples) and the names seem to stay after re-adding them, but it would be nice if this problem could be fixed without sending all the players through this, because most of us can't even remember what their names were. Luckly I have a name list from all of my ever created Sims saved on an extern hard drive. The good ol' Goth family for example have also lost their complete names.

I have all Sims in my save saved in my library, so that is what I am using to fix the names. I was fixing them when I saw them in game, but I might do a search to see if there are more I haven't found yet using that mod, thank you for the suggestion @LuvMySimz 🙂

@babuchas01GREAT! So do I. I have them all saved up in my library and re-save them whenever I do some changes to them, and then delete previous ones to prevent doubles. I am extremely accurate with my Sims which is why I have an extra list with all their names, location and Id numbers. I've done that long before I knew about the sims4 info tool. This tool can be very helpful for people not micro managing their game 😉

Just checked a few other custom Sim family names to make extra sure and what do you know!? the game even renamed some of my sims! Can you believe this?! WHY EA???

Now I have to check ALL of my customised Sims, not only the nameless ones that I've already fixed. Man what a mess!

Breaking the game for me really... How does all this happen, do they not do any testing before release, or are we the testing bed ?????

I haven't posted in a while because I went through and renamed all my sims back to their proper names. Now I'm noticing it's starting to happen again, so far it's less than a handful but this is ridiculous. Has EA in any way responded or is this just an issue that they are ignoring?

I'm wondering if I should just save everything to my library and copy/paste it into a new save file. None of the other save files I have seem to be affected by this. Then again I haven't saved them recently, so I'm not sure if that has something to do with it.

@goldengurl053

I don't think that only older characters are affected, because in my game newer ones were changed as well. For example, there is a male sim named "Owen Baker" and he was also magically renamed to "Paolo Rocca". Maybe his real name was indeed Paolo Rocca when I customised him, but I can't remember. I guess there is a bug in the memory system and the game can't remember all the changes anymore that we made in the past to already existing characters. Owen Baker, however, is newer than the Goth family and was renamed anyway. What I find strange is that the Goth family lost their complete names as well as some, others. I haven't done any changes to the Goths names, only to their appearance.

I had a baby born in the hospital, it promoted me to give it a first name, which is normal, but couldn't leave it there, I had to make up a last name for him too, shouldn't the last name automatically be set for the parent as it used to be?

@LuvMySimz 

I came across this quite by accident while looking around the board.  There is indeed a Paolo Rocca in the original game.  I do (in part, among other things) exactly what you describe here, renaming people.  However, I also sometimes randomize the people themselves, even changing the gender, so that ever since this glitch appeared, I'll have, say, a male sim who is now named "Pamela Kjerstenson" because that is the name of the originally generated female NPC from whom I derived the male currently in my game.

Which means that unless a fix is released for this issue which reverts the names as per our changes, I am going to be deleting all those sims.  When I look at this guy and see the Pamela name, I can't remember (for the life of me) what I renamed him; he's an NPC in my game, LOL.  So for me, the logical response is to get rid of sims affected by this glitch, but I'm waiting a little while to see how the next update/patch/fix pans out.

I want to just work in build mode until the glitch is fixed, but I’m worried if I save anything, I’ll make the save file much worse than it already is. 

And yes, Paolo Rocca is one of the Partihaus Sims that lives in Windenburg. 

@goldengurl053

You guys are right! there is indeed a PAOLO ROCCA in the game in WIndenburg (PartyPeople), but why would the game name my Sim the same way. I did not even touch already existing Sims with homes, I only customized homeless Sims and gave some of them a home like I did with Owen Baker. I doubt that his real name was Paolo Rocca. The game was just lazy and grabbed already existing names lol.

I think we need to keep things in perspective here. There appears to be two (or more) separate issues. I had last names not working on new born sims. Turns out it was in fact a mod that altered names. Thanks to whomever pointed this out.. Another issue is sims in game missing names (first, last or both) Personally, I haven't experienced this one. And lastly, there is the seemingly random renaming of sims which is in fact not random at all. Any game NPC that was re-imagined in CAS prior to the last patch, their names will revert back to the original NPC names. This has happened to me frequently. On sims I reworked, and ones I downloaded form the gallery. The only way I have found to fix the last issue is to take the renamed sim into CAS, and change the name. It won't stick using a mod or command line. Unfortunately, there are tens of thousands of sims in the gallery that are affected by this. Not to mention those of us who have done this by reworking them.

I haven't had an issue with newly generated sims last names, but I when and send my sim to University, and all the newly random generated students, have no last names, but if you say it's a mod that alters names then I'll look into it first.

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@Citysim9997 wrote:

I haven't had an issue with newly generated sims last names, but I when and send my sim to University, and all the newly random generated students, have no last names, but if you say it's a mod that alters names then I'll look into it first.

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In my case it was a mod.. And the last names were specific to newborns. Not at all sure if it is a mod in you case, but it certainly is possible. But others have reported that it isn't a mod because they don't use them. So there's that. This is why I said there appears to be 2 or 3 separate issues.