Re: [FIXED/MOD RELATED] Culled Ghosts become Undead (in Manage Households)

I have the same issue but only ever since the new update.

I have not experienced this problem before and I don't know what to do...

If i delete the undead sims under the unplayed section of manage world, my family tree is messed up (i. e.  I deleted Bella Goth and now she isn't in the family tree as a picture).

This means that my save is pretty much unplayable in the long run, as I have already a lot of these undead sims in my manage household and my game is lagging more than ever.

Now i worry what will happen if I start my legacy save, will it now be resulting in the same problem?!

I do use MCCC, but until this update I have not have any problems with this before.

This is unacceptable for me, almost all my saves are more generations and simply saving them in my gallery is not an option for me.

Is there nothing I can do?

Problem is that this could be a MCCC issue for you so unless you can make it happen without, it's hard to know what's actually causing it.

The issue occurs when you bring the dead Sim back to life (removing the Ghost trait) that was previously sent to the Netherworld before the patch. Than re-killing them off again and releasing their spirit to the Netherworld which causes the sim to appear and look alive in manage households.

Hi there ! So, I know it's been announced that this issue has been fixed with the latest update but it's still happening for me.

I started using a new save, uncorrupted, and yet when the grandmother died and i released her spirit, she turned into a zombie in manage household. Exactly as described, her traits have been deleted and her household has no name. She appears however as a ghost in the family tree so i guess that's an improvement from before the patch ...

About the save i used, it's a downloaded save from a creator. It has no cc content, it's just filed with families and lots. It dates back to prior the Pets update and the beginning of the glitch. 

As for the family, i downloaded the household fromm my previous game and settled them in the new save. 

Also, no matter what, it seems that any sim who dies is redirected in manage household. Is that normal ? I'm pretty sure that before the Pets patch, dead sims did not appear in manage household even if they were enjoying a free ghost life. 

Thanks for the hep, this issue is ruining any kind of legacy gameplay ...

[Edit] As i was writing my post I thought, maybe the save or the household i used are corrupted, one because too old and the other because the family tree had been messed up. So i created a brand new save, just for a test, and it's doing the exact same thing. I killed a sim, she went traight to manage houhold as a ghost, then i released her spirit and now she's back to being alive. I killed another sim, this time outisde a lot, so he disappeared without leaving an urn. He appears as a ghosts in his ex-roomates relationships, but i can't find hime in manage household. It seems like because he doesn't have an urn, he's not glitching and being a normal ghost. 

@Cinthilaa I'm using the repro steps you provided (brand new game, kill a Sim, open Manage Worlds, open Manage Households) and I'm not seeing the ghost that I killed added to my Manage Households. I've tried killing the Sim both on and off the lot and still nothing in Manage Households.

Are you potentially using any mods, like MC Command Center? Can you also verify that your game is fully up-to-date? Have you tried a Repair Game? Thanks for the help!

The issue is with MC Command Center. Removing the mod fixes the issue.

This is why we always need stuff tested on unmodded games.

Please please please read the [INFORMATION] How does this forum work ? thread before reporting. 

Mods and CC are NOT supported by EA and I personally think that QA can use their time better than trying to figure out a issue that happens with a mod.

So, to everyone that still has this issue: Please again, remove your mods before reporting.

Hi @Cinthilaa
The issue is with Mc Command Center. I removed the mod out of the Mods folder and tested and the issue disappeared. I even reported it to him on his discord but he doesn't seem to believe the issue is with his Mod. He even said that it's something to do with with the game itself but it's not.

Hi, well 'i talked to dearderpool and he's agreed to look into it after i detailed my testing. Also, i'm not the only one with the issue so makes sense that he is willing to help now.

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@Cinthilaa wrote:

Hi, well 'i talked to dearderpool and he's agreed to look into it after i detailed my testing. Also, i'm not the only one with the issue so makes sense that he is willing to help now.

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I'm on the Discord right now as I'm typing this, and Deaderpool said earlier today...

The dead Sim was actually being bypassed due to new code I added in 4.1.0 for new culling code that EA had added with Cats & Dogs. It was pointed-out to me in that release that some Sims were still being culled and when I investigated, I found the new additions by EA. There was a condition in the code I added that was behaving...strangely with dead Sim's households (rather than culled Sims) and was causing this behavior. Fixed now so it'll be in the next pre-release/final release for 4.2.0. Thanks for the research and save file!

I hope it's okay to mention this here.