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Re: [NEEDS INPUT] 'Read To Children' interaction disappears on certain books

@KatastrophicSim I assume you mean the book help interaction on the bookshelves for toddlers ?

Are there actually any toddler books in the bookshelves still ?

Not aware of children having that option at all on the bookshelf. Do you actually have that interaction on new bookshelves for children ?

As we didn't have toddlers in 2014, I don't know what you're referring to. To my knowledge you always had to use the parent to read to children (unless they changed that somewhere along the way) but if you have it for children on new bookshelves, could you post a picture ?

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  • KatastrophicSim's avatar
    KatastrophicSim
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    6 years ago

    It's in the title mate, I mean the "read with an adult" aspiration thing for children. 

    It's crazy, and no it has nothing to do with the bookshelf itself. It's the books. You're supposed to be able to click on childrens book, as an adult, and the "read to child" action will pop up. However if it doesn't you literally have to buy a new bookcase in order to do it. It makes no sense but it's what happens.

    I only know it was a bug in 2014 because I searched it up on a thread on this very website, to figure out how to deal with it. 

    @ribovirian Yes, that's literally the problem. I open the bookcase, lookat the books take them out the inventory, literally everything I can think of to do with the children's book BUT the option just isn't there until I buy a new bookcase. (Might also work if you just buy a new book too, haven't tried it)

    @MeltingPenguins Yes, I have done all that, but the option wasn't availiable until I bought a new bookcase for some reason. Now every time this bug happens im going to have to buy a new bookcase (or i'm guessing a new book, but I haven't tried that yet)

  • crinrict's avatar
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    6 years ago

    @KatastrophicSim Do you have the issue in your own house as well ?

    I can duplicate this on the vacation lot but if I buy books there, it works fine so it looks like it has something to do with ownership of the book.

    If it's in your own house, at what point do you loose the ability on the book ? Does it work form Sims inventory ?

    EDIT: Could you link to a thread that you're referring to ? There was a lot of issues in the past with knowing where the find the interaction in the first place.

  • KatastrophicSim's avatar
    KatastrophicSim
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    6 years ago
    @crinrict Yeah, once the issue occurs the only way to rid of it is to buy a new bookcase, and as I was on vacation at the time I couldn't do that, but yes, when I got home it didn't work there either until I bought a new bookcase.
    I'm pretty sure it didn't work before I went on vacation too because I don't remember seeing the interaction before when childrens books are left out.

    When the bug happens it doesn't work at all, ever. In the inventory, out of the inventory, on the floor, in the adults inventory, in the child's inventory, on the floor but near the child and adult. It just doesn't exist until you buy a new bookcase.

    The thread is here: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues-PC/adult-sim-read-to-child-sims-4/m-p/3463029/highlight/true#M8746

    That's how I knew I could do it after I bought a new bookcase.
  • crinrict's avatar
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    6 years ago

    @KatastrophicSim That thread was more a misunderstanding of things and the solution post is about medicine so I don't think that's still the same issue.

    I do believe it has something to do with ownership. It seems you can't use books that don't belong to the Sim (which just as well might be a bug) but it's strange that for you it stops working at some point in your own house.

    I wasn't able to read to children at libraries either cause they didn't own the book. I'm unsure if that was possible at some point.

    Any idea when it stops ? Any specific interactions ? Could you try if it works if you buy a new children's book ?

    If it happens again with bookcases in your own home, could you share your save ?

  • KatastrophicSim's avatar
    KatastrophicSim
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    6 years ago
    @crinrict Well I kept reading after the "solution" post and saw someone say "buy a new bookcase" and that fixed it.

    It seems to reset somewhat after saving and exiting (meaning after you exit and come back it'slike a 50/50 chance of whether the books will be readable to children after). Also after finishing a book it sometimes activates. I saw after finishing a book with the kid I could no longer do it with that same book. I did it again with a different book and I could totally read it to the kid again after. It seems completely random.

    I did try the "buy a new book" thing and yea that works too. If you buy a book again, you can read that book, but the previous books will still remain unreadable (to children).

    How do I share my save? Because yeah, at the moment some books are readable to children and some just aren't, all childrens books, all doing the same process, some just don't want to be read to children.
  • crinrict's avatar
    crinrict
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    6 years ago
    @KatastrophicSim I tested your save and could find one book that I couldn't read to the child.

    It was also impossible to put it it any Sims inventory and it said it's now owned by the family. So that points to the ownership issue again.

    All other books in the book case did have the option to read to the child for me.

    Some cc was removed when I loaded your lot so maybe there's a conflict with that ?
  • KatastrophicSim's avatar
    KatastrophicSim
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    6 years ago
    @crinrict Did you check the duplicates though? Also soooo now is that book you found readable for you or not?

    The CC is purely cosmetic, and none of the mod CC I ever used has anything to do with books. Just bug fixes.
  • crinrict's avatar
    crinrict
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    6 years ago

    @KatastrophicSim It was a book in a stack (First Unicorn). That book didn't have the option but it was also not owned by the Sim (which I don't know if it's a bug or not but it comes down to the issue I pointed out before with off-lot books. You can't read books to children that you don't own).

    All others had the read to children interaction on them. I didn't actually tried reading to them cause I thought you're reporting that you don't have the option ?

    The option also if course isn't there on non-children's book (just mentioning that)

  • KatastrophicSim's avatar
    KatastrophicSim
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    6 years ago
    @crinrict Yes, it is a bug, because it didn't come from anywhere else. Pretty sure it came with the bookcase that was on the lot when I bought it.

    You should also try reading them to children, since sometimes after reading them to childen, they become unreadable again. Not because they're tense or bored, the option just disappears.
  • crinrict's avatar
    crinrict
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    6 years ago

    @KatastrophicSim If they do, can put them in your inventory or do they suddenly show as unowned for you ?

    EDIT: I've now read about 10 books to the child in your house and none of them lost the ability to be read again later.

  • KatastrophicSim's avatar
    KatastrophicSim
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    6 years ago
    @crinrict Yeah, the sim put it in his inventory I think to go do something else, thats when I clicked on it and suddenly the option wasn't availiable anymore. I put in in the bookcaaaase and on the floooor but nothing brought back the function so I just picked a different book. Perhaps since you only found one book that didn't work, the process of saving and exiting / reloading fixed it.

    It must be a real rare bug then. It definitely 100% happened. (Not to be confused with it happens 100% of the time).
  • crinrict's avatar
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    6 years ago
    @KatastrophicSim Somewhere else as travelling to another lot ?

    To me sounds there's two issues you're seeing:

    1. Not owed books can't be read to children (happens at libraries and on vacation). This is totally inconsistent cause you can read toddlers book just fine as well as adult books that don't belong to you. I do think it might have something to do with the way the interactions appears (only in inventory) while toddler books can be read from the bookcase itself.

    I don't know if this is considered a bug by the devs or not.

    2. Books becoming unowned for whatever reason. That def shouldn't happen but it would be good to know what interactions leads to that state. Moving houses could be a reason (cause moving and inventory have multiple issues). Maybe travelling with books in your inventory ?

    So, bottom line, if you can find out what exactly makes them unowned for you, that would be great info and if you can also confirm that the are infact unowned (the put into inventory interaction will be greyed out and tool tip blabla doesn't own the book will appear) when you can't read them anymore, that would also be interesting info.

    Not trying to give you a hard time here, just trying to figure out with what we're dealing here and what could be causing it (especially as I wasn't able to duplicate the second issue)

    Going to mark this as needs input for now (for the second issue) to see if anyone else has issue with the read to interaction dropping from books. (Issue Nr. 2).

    For the first one, I'll try get some official info
  • KatastrophicSim's avatar
    KatastrophicSim
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    6 years ago
    @crinrict Again, there's no reason for the books to be unowned in the first place. This makes it a bug.

    I've already told you exactly what happened. I can't tell you more becaure there isss nooo moreee. He read to the child, finished, put the book in his inventory, then it wasn't readble to children again. I didn't suddenly move house or go on an outing or anything.
    The option wasn't greyed out either, it just didn't exist.
    After I finished my play session, saved and exited and returned later, the book was readable again.

    I'm the same as you too, I can't duplicate the second issue either. If it happens again I'll be sure to get screenshots or something but it seems like a really rare one-time issue.

    I feel like these bugs wouldn't even be bugs if EA just let all books be read to children in the first place, no matter where they come from.
  • crinrict's avatar
    crinrict
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    6 years ago
    @KatastrophicSim I meant the put into inventory option is greyed out, not the read to children.

    As said, I'm trying to get some info on the fact that you can't read unowned books as I do find it inconsistent with toddler books

    The other issue you are having I haven't been able to duplicate which is why it would be good to have others that have that say so.

    Not much more I can do anyways but I've tagged and forwarded and I hope some other people chime in.
  • KatastrophicSim's avatar
    KatastrophicSim
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    6 years ago
    @crinrict Well for the first issue I'm pretty sure I'm able to put it in the inventory, but for the second I wouldn't know since he put it in his inventory automatically after finishing.

    Just to clarify or anyone new without reading everything - cant' read to children, not can't read at all.

    Thanks anyway. Hope someone can mod all books to be readable to children since EA can't be bothered.
  • MeltingPenguins's avatar
    MeltingPenguins
    6 years ago

    Alright, got the 'you need a new bookcase' bug too now. Had to sell ALL bookcases on the lot before reading to child worked again. (It's a household with four adults and two kids, and not one adult could read to any of the kids before I sold the bookcases)

  • KatastrophicSim's avatar
    KatastrophicSim
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    6 years ago
    @MeltingPenguins It's okay, you can also buy a new book instead of a whole bookcase lmao. You still won't be able to read the other ones but at least you have one to read.
  • MeltingPenguins's avatar
    MeltingPenguins
    6 years ago

    I have a save from afterwards, I think, but that won't do, will it?

    And i dunno if the book became unowned. I tried it via Open Bookcase and dragged a book from there unto the coffeetable, had an adult and the child sit on the couch and clicked the book with the adult. The option wasn't there until I sold all other bookcases. (it worked for the first book for the aspiration, but the second had this problem)

  • justDawn069's avatar
    justDawn069
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    5 years ago

    Buy a new book while on vacation worked for me... even though I had children's book in my inventory...

    Thanks.

  • xochiquetzl_xkvn's avatar
    xochiquetzl_xkvn
    Seasoned Ace
    5 years ago

    Is it possible that your sim sticky-fingered books from vacation and that's why they don't work at home?  I realized recently that my Sims had plundered the bookshelf of their favorite Selvadoradan vacation rental, leaving it with a single book.  I'd previously noticed they had extra books and that some of the duplicate books didn't work for "read to child."

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