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Re: [NEEDS SAVES] [W] [V] Dormant Werewolf/Vampire offsprings cause hybrids

Product: The Sims 4
Platform:PC
Which language are you playing the game in? English
How often does the bug occur? Often (50% - 99%)
What is your current game version number? 1.106.148.1030
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? All expansion packs, all game packs, all stuff packs, Bust the Dust Kit, Country Kitchen Kit, Throwback Fit Kit, Courtyard Oasis Kit, Industrial Loft Kit, Industrial Loft Kit, Fashion Street Kit, Incheon Arrivals Kit, Blooming Rooms Kit, Little Campers Kit, Desert Luxe Kit, Holiday Celebration Pack, and Family Portrait
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Have either 2 sims with Dormant Wolf trait and have them have a baby or have 1 sim with Dormant Wolf trait and have them have a science baby as a single parent.
What happens when the bug occurs? The born baby will either be a werewolf, a vampire, or a werewolf-vampire hybrid.
What do you expect to see? According to tuning files, it should result in either a werewolf or a werewolf with Greater Wolf Blood trait.
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Never used.
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? No

Problem that I've not only found in tuning files, but also saw in-game beforehand.

In traits.trait_tracker module, there is this spot:

Spoiler
<U>
<L n="outcomes">
<U>
<T n="trait">
289780
<!-- trait_OccultWerewolf -->
</T>
</U>
<U>
<T n="trait">
149527
<!-- trait_OccultVampire -->
</T>
</U>
</L>
<L n="parent_a_whitelist">
<T>
288908
<!-- trait_OccultWerewolf_DormantWolf -->
</T>
</L>
<L n="parent_b_blacklist">
<T>
154672
<!-- trait_OccultVampire_DarkLeyLine -->
</T>
</L>
<L n="parent_b_whitelist">
<T>
288908
<!-- trait_OccultWerewolf_DormantWolf -->
</T>
</L>
</U>

In short, what it does is that if two parents have Dormant Wolf trait and at least one of them isn't affected by Dark Ley Line lot trait, the baby resulting from them is either a vampire or a werewolf. It can also result in a vampire-werewolf hybrid, which has been reported here.

What code it should run is this:

Spoiler
<U>
<L n="outcomes">
<U>
<T n="trait">
289780
<!-- trait_OccultWerewolf -->
</T>
<T n="weight">2</T>
</U>
<U>
<T n="trait">
289080
<!-- trait_OccultWerewolf_GreaterWolfBlood -->
</T>
</U>
</L>
<L n="parent_a_whitelist">
<T>
288908
<!-- trait_OccultWerewolf_DormantWolf -->
</T>
</L>
<L n="parent_b_whitelist">
<T>
288908
<!-- trait_OccultWerewolf_DormantWolf -->
</T>
</L>
</U>

According to which two parents with Dormant Wolf trait should have a baby that is either a werewolf or has Greater Wolf Blood trait.

Testing out in game (through the Science baby method), my sim had twin girls:

In short, the only fix I could see done here is that in the first code, trait_OccultVampire_DarkLeyLine isn't excluded, but rather included.

Otherwise right now, the Dark Ley Line lot trait will always result in werewolf babies in a Dormant Wolf pair.

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  • EgonVM's avatar
    EgonVM
    Seasoned Ace
    6 months ago

    Decided to test it out just in case it has been secretly fixed.

    The issue persists.

    I had a dormant werewolf have a science baby as a single parent (which is same as two dormant werewolves having a baby). One came out as werewolf, the other as werewolf-vampire hybrid.

    Here's a picture of their bassinets...

    And when I aged up the one that was in the vampire bassinet... Oh would you look at that.

    The werewolf baby got Greater Wolf Blood though!

  • EgonVM's avatar
    EgonVM
    Seasoned Ace
    6 months ago

    @crinrict wrote:
    @EgonVMThere's this older thread: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/NEEDS-SAVES-W-V-Dormant-Werewolf-Vampire-offsprings-cause/m-p/11645785

    Could this be the same issue you're seeing ?

    Yep, I have also posted there too.

    There seems to be a problem with Dormant Werewolves in particular as the game applies the Dark Ley Line modifier if they didn't try for a baby on a lot with that trait.

    For now, the only workaround of this is trying for a baby in lots with Dark Ley Line trait.

  • EgonVM's avatar
    EgonVM
    Seasoned Ace
    6 months ago

    @crinrict wrote:
    @EgonVMI merged the threads then

    Did you already send your save game to EA ?

    Very well.

    No, I haven't sent the save. I did find a reason in code why it happens (which I also shared in the post), so sending the save would do no good as it'll happen in every save.

  • I don't know whether this is the same issue (and I;m not submitting my save because it might not be related) but I have a toddler who is a vampire but thinks she's a werewolf.


    The reason I think this is connected goes back a couple of generations in my werewolf/occult dynasty. Basically my current adult wolf sim has both the dormant wolf trait and the greater wolf blood trait. I thought this was impossible but apparently it wasn't. She got the dormant trait from her mother who inherited it from her mother (who was an activated werewolf). Whereas her other parent had the greater wolf blood trait. So a double wolf situation.

    The current adult wolf has three children. The first has the strong bloodline spellcaster trait but is a werewolf. He's grown up fine as a wolf with no glitches, I may cure him and take him on a spellcaster path later but he's not causing any issues rn.


    Second child is a wolf, but has the dormant wolf trait. His father is a normal human. He's a child atm but I'm assuming he'll just be a normal wolf when he ages despite only having the dormant trait. In my game these seem to autobecome wolves now...

    And the third child, Aurelia. Her dad is a vampire. When she was born she had the vampire thing above her head, so she was always a vampire. But then she aged up with the wolf, not the vampire on her stats. As a toddler she was getting wolf fang prompts, and in CAS she had two selves - one was the wolf and the other apparently was the vampire, although it behaved really weirdly and CAS didn't show her with any occult status.


    I used the cheat code to remove the wolf trait from her. It took multiple tries before it actually worked. When I did get it to work, her appearance changed automatically from the wolf appearance to the vampire appearance in CAS (bear in mind this is still only a toddler!)

    Since then she now has the vampire symbol on her stats. But...she is still getting wolf messages about wolf fangs...which I assume are lingering buffs but I don't want to use a mod to remove them. 

    I'm worried about what will happen when she ages up to teen. But because she doesn't have the dormant wolf trait, I'm not sure if this is a related or the same bug or not :/

    I am also not sure if it is just this family being that they are generation 5 or 6 now. I moved them from their old house as it was sometimes crashing, but to give context, the second child aged from infant to teen in basically one go (I had to cheat him back to toddler) and the gran had a mid-life crisis as an elder, rather than as an adult, before she passed away. So...it's possible my family is just bugged.

    But. Just in case it is related, I wanted to add that as a possible - wolves who for some reason have dormant and active wolf traits can also cause confused offspring.

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