Re: [OPEN] [CoL] Simple Living: Gourmet Servings don't show required ingredients

@SheriGRThanks for your help!

Yes, I did the your recommended steps when I removed all the mods and retried. I have no idea why you don't need the Cheese to make family or party size of Monte Cristo Sandwich. Anyway, I have two questions:

1. Can you try to figure out the real recipes to make family size and party size of Monte Cristo Sandwich? You could get a better isolation or ingredients by using a "Sticker Storage Box" (get it from Storage->Misc) to store all the ingredients from the refrigerator and personal inventory. Sorry, that might take you a bit of effort. (You don't need to do it, because the question number 2 is the point)

2. Why there's no Gourmet Meal recipes listing for family size and party size? There is listing for Cooking. It makes sense to have the listing for Gourmet Meal, right? This is what I really want to ask. I don't see the listing on your screenshot, either. I cannot find it in any cooking guide on the network.

Thanks again for your help! It takes you so much time.

@imhotep168 I'm happy to help, it's no bother... I just hope we can figure out what's going on in your game!

Thank you for the clarifications. I think I may have an idea what's going on. Are you using the 'sticker box' for your storage/sorting of food ingredients?

I just tested on the same lot as before. If I moved the ingredients required for the Monte Cristo Sandwich (all meats and bread) onto the floor (out of the refrigerator), the options to make that dish were not present for my sim:

So.... I tried adding a 'sticker storage box' to the floor. I then dragged the food items from the floor to the box, and with my sim active in live mode I then had the option to open the box and view the contents:

I still had the same options as above for cooking the Monte Cristo Sandwich - the game did not see those items as available ingredients, and thus did not see the dish as able to be cooked. Also, if I, in live mode with my sim active, chose the option to 'put in inventory'...

The box remained on the floor, but this sim and other sims did not have the option to 'open' it and view its contents. The ingredients had disappeared. I could not see them in the room, in her personal inventory, in the refrigerator, or in the household inventory. Also, 'open' was not an option on the storage box. She did have an option to 'place in world' or something to that effect, and if chosen the sim made an animation like they placed something on the floor, but nothing was there. 

So, I tried one more thing. I dragged the box into the household inventory, then back into the room in the home. This seemed to 'reset' the box. Now with a sim active I could see the option 'open' again, and I could see the meats and bread in the sticker storage box contents again. So, I dragged these items back into the refrigerator and I could then see all of the expected cooking options for the Monte Cristo Sandwich.

So... if you are using the storage box to 'sort' your items, I'm wondering if you have some items acting buggy in a similar way? Perhaps you may want to try dragging your storage boxes to the household inventory then back into the world to see if items may become normally viewable in the manner I described, then drag back to the refrigerator all of your food items. 

As an additional note, I'm wondering if the reason you only see one serving available is perhaps your bread loaf only has one serving left? Please make sure you have a whole bread loaf and meat source - one that no sim has taken a serving from - in the refrigerator, then see if the larger serving sizes are options for your sim to cook. 

Dear @SheriGR Thank you!

Yes, I usually use Sticker Storage Box to store and sort out food ingredients. However, I haven't encounter the 'bug' you mentioned. I only play one sim family which might allow me to avoid the problem. I'll try to reproduce it by add a roommate.

Above is one of your screenshots. There's no recipes shown for family and party size. But if you checked the Cooking, there are recipes shown for family and party size.

This is what I want to point out. Why there're family and party sized recipe for Cooking, but not for Gourmet Meals?

@imhotep168 Thank you for your graciousness and kind thanks! ❤️ And I'm so glad you found the information applicable in your case about the box use for food sorting making those items in the boxes not show up as ingredients needed for cooking meals. 🙌

You are correct. I can see the same thing in my game on this... In the case of the 'Cooking' dish options, I do see, with the Simple Living lot trait on, that I have variations in the amounts of ingredients required per dish serving sizes...

Whereas, if I choose 'Gourmet' dish options with the Simple Living lot trait on, I have only one amount(s) of ingredients required per dish and it will cook all three serving sizes for that same amount: 

This may be intended as a 'special' condition for gourmet dishes, or this special condition may have been intended for all of the types of cooking/baking with Simple Living and it was an oversight to not apply it universally... or the other way around (probably most logical)... that this was an oversight in the case of gourmet dishes. I find that to be a happy accident if that is the case, as the gourmet dishes are my faves to have my sims cook, and I cook big as I have big households. 🙂

If this bothers you and you want to begin a separate thread to point that out (since that really is not the same thing as the greyed-out options that didn't make sense which we were also discussing here), it will be more likely to be noted correctly if the thread is not about greyed out meal options in the title. I don't know whether or not this would be accepted/kept as a bug report or would be feedback? Anyway, good luck, and enjoy the free 'bonus sized' meals! 🙌

@SheriGRThe recipe shown for each Gourmet dish is not good for three different size. It's only good for single server. Take Monte Cristo Sandwich for example, you could try to have only one meat, one bread in your personal inventory or refrigerator and takes out all the cheese to counter or  other places (just don't leave it in the refrigerator or personal inventory.) In this situation, I believe the family and party sizes are greyed out.

Anyway, this might be an 'oversight', but it actually existed from the very beginning of game. We don't care too much about it because we money can solve it.

I am compiling a list of Gourmet Meal recipes. I also don't expect the EA will do anything on this issue if I create a new thread, because they are too busy. There are many more higher priority bugs they have to deal with. I still have to say thank you one more time for your time to help me work on this issue. 

I just wanted to add, and maybe you have seen this already that when you try and cook a Gourmet Meal > Caesar Salad in a large format, let's say Family or Party Servings, there is no option to do so. It doesn't matter if you have lots of lettuce/lemon it doesn't register it. So it either has a hidden ingredient that I don't have at the moment in the fridge, or its a bug. The gourmet meal option is good game play for Snobby sims/Rich Sims, and because I'm currently playing both, it's just a drag on the game immersion. You would want all options to be clear from the get go. Should I not do the "Simple living" trait lot option in this case? No. All my playable lots have this trait because it's realistic. Ingredients don't just pop out of nowhere. Shame.. I mean a real shame.

@animatedoodle I just entered the same lot that I tested with earlier in the thread (please reference some of the background/info in my previous posts here). I checked and in their refrigerator (so that all have access to them) they have 2 lettuce, and obviously a lemon and a tomato (see screenshots). The Sim was able to make both a Caprese Salad and a Caesar Salad, if the required ingredients are available to the Sim (Lettuce+Tomato for Caprese; Lettuce+Lemon for Caesar). Also, if one of each of those ingredients is owned the Sim was had the option of making a Single serving, Family Size, or Party Size:

Do you have Mods/CC? If you do, it's possible that one of them is affecting your choices. It does not need to be a Mod/CC that would seem like it would conflict. If you have Mods/CC you can test as follows:

Hello, when I go to cook in my new save file it won't let me

@BLsWnd Do you have Mods/CC? Can you cook in another, new save? Is it all households that you cannot cook in or just this one household?

@SheriGR  Sorry, context is important!  I'm experiencing the same issue as Imohtep168 describes with no recipes showing for party/group for certain gourmet meals.

@cmgress Thanks for clarifying. In the case of Imohtep168's issue, I think maybe we bottom-lined at comment #29 https://answers.ea.com/t5/Game-and-Mod-CC-Issues/Meals-greyed-out-sims-can-t-cook-or-bake/m-p/11664893#M18674 ... but not necessarily, depending on what aspect/s of the issur are also going on for you. Please read through the whole chat between us (before that comment and a little after) to see if the issue you're facing is covered there, or if it is different. If it's different, please clarify for me. Thanks so much!!

@SheriGRHi Sheri, I read the comments from #29 to the end. I realise this thread is in the mod/cc issues. I never used cc or mods ever, but I do have the issue where I have the ingredients as indicated, but can only cook a single meal. Is that a bug or am I missing something without realising it? I use simple living trait. Without the trait, the ingredients of the caesar salad have been reduced to just 1 lemon and I can cook every size of meal, except it costs simoleons. I want to be able to make a family size salad, while having the ingredients and with the simple living trait active.

@IrisuChan Thank you for adding your information and thoughts. Hmmm... Well, I just went back into that previous lot in my game with Simple Living. The Sim/s did not have Caesar Salad ingredients in anyone's personal inventory or in the household inventory. All ingredients are in the refrigerator, for common use. There were two lemons and two small lettuces in the refrigerator.

Note: The Caesar Salad options say it takes 1 lemon and 1 lettuce in all of the following, as far as the listed required ingredients:

With the ingredients mentioned above in the refrigerator (2 lemons, 2 lettuce), my Sim had the option of all sizes of Caesar Salad:

However, if I...

• dragged one of either the lemon or lettuce into the 'sell' box so it was deleted... OR...
• dragged one of the lemons plus one of the lettuces into the 'sell' box so they were deleted...

...I no longer got the Party size option:

I was unable to reproduce the inability to not have the family size available to make, though.

So, for whatever it's worth, maybe that indicates something different than in my other tests, for my end of it? I assume this may indicate that even though it says it only takes one lemon and one lettuce, it seems to take one more of either of these to make a larger sized serving. If you want to put this issue in as a bug report, let me know and I could add my information.