Re: [UNSURE] [ECO] N.A.P Water Conservation fine for business lot in another hood
@MeSunnyC To be sure I understand you right, it was NEVER active in any of the hoods or did you revoke it at some point ?
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- @MeSunnyC So, did some testing on your save and I can duplicate the issue.
I've tried some stuff but I'm not 100% if the following works as I only played until the bills arrive and not further. It would probably need to be tested how it is after a week of playing but I don't have the time to go that far.
So, try the following
- Open Cheat console and put testingcheats true
- Shift-Click on your mail box and repeal any of the 4 you currently have
- Shift-Click on your mail box and add Water consumption to your hood
- Shift-Click on your mail box and repeal water consumption.
I'm not 100% sure that's all it takes but I tried removing different ones and for all the fine didn't occur if I added and then remove it.
You would need to do some more long time testing though. I'm not 100% confident this works. - @crinrict Hey there! So a little update: I've been testing out the steps you told me, and the fine is still happening. I also tried doing the steps manually, without cheats (manually repealing one of my current NAP, manually voting for Water Consumption and having it accepted, and then manually repealing Water Consumption) and it's still happening. I tried restarting the game between attempts to see if that made any difference, but it didn't.
I have the exact same problem!!!! I tried the steps you suggested and it did not work.
I'm my case it happened after the latest patch AND it started when one of my sims went to Selvadorada, the rest of the household stayed.
I remember thinking it was an issue with the Selva Dorada lot, so I ignored it and was surprised when it got carried to my lot in Willow Creek.
My sim was staying at Jungle Bungalow.
I tried to see if I can modify the NAPs at Selvadorada but the game does not let me do it as my sim does not live there.
Hope this information helps.
Please let me know if the issue is solved
@MeSunnyC
Follow up on this. The water conservation NAP was active for a lot where my sims have a vet clinic.
Once I got rid of it in that neighborhood, the problem stoped in my home lot.@rmvarillas hmm, my household does own a vet clinic, and a restaurant, on the save file with this issue. I'll check the neighborhoods where the owned businesses lots are in to check if any of them have the Water Conservation N.A.P active.
My household has had a retail store in Magnolia Promenade, and I just checked - the Water Conservation NAP is active in that neighborhood.
I'll remove the NAP and hopefully that will do the trick. Many thanks!!
Just a quick update. I removed the NAP in Magnolia Promenade. At first I tried by placing a mailbox and shift-clicking on the mailbox to repeal the NAP. But because my sim didn't live in the neighborhood, the option was grayed out. So I moved a random sim into the empty lot in Magnolia Promenade, used that sim to shift-click the mailbox and instantly repeal the NAP.
It worked! My sim no longer gets fined on a daily basis. Thanks again!!
Same here! The neighborhood where one of the businesses my Sims own did have the Water Conservation N.A.P active, so I used one of the Sims that lived in that neighborhood to instantly repeal it and now my household isn't being fined! @rmvarillas thanks!
@crinrict I think we found the solution for this! NAPs active in neighborhoods your household has business in may affect your household as well. I just wonder if this is actually a bug or if it's meant to work this way.
@MeSunnyC wrote:Same here! The neighborhood where one of the businesses my Sims own did have the Water Conservation N.A.P active, so I used one of the Sims that lived in that neighborhood to instantly repeal it and now my household isn't being fined! @rmvarillas thanks!
@crinrict I think we found the solution for this! NAPs active in neighborhoods your household has business in may affect your household as well. I just wonder if this is actually a bug or if it's meant to work this way.
You would think that you would be fined for businesses in those neighborhood but you would also think that since they affect you, you'd be able to vote on them?
- @PenguinFoop I think that would make sense. Whether it's made like that by design or it's a bug, I think it'd make sense to fix it to either
a) let households that have businesses in different neighborhoods vote on those neighborhoods too
b) make it so that businesses NAPs don't affect the household - @MeSunnyC I don't know if it's a bug or not but in the very least the message for the fine could tell you that it's for your business if that's the case.
I do think @PenguinFoop argument is a good one for it to be a bug tough.
Will mark this as Unsure.
@MeSunnyC wrote:
@PenguinFoopI think that would make sense. Whether it's made like that by design or it's a bug, I think it'd make sense to fix it to either
a) let households that have businesses in different neighborhoods vote on those neighborhoods too
b) make it so that businesses NAPs don't affect the householdActually I don't really think the second option makes much sense. It would be like saying "I'm putting my business in your neighborhood but I am not going to follow your rules." In reality (which admittedly The Sims has always bucked against thankfully), that wouldn't work. You choose to live or do business there that means you choose to follow that community's rules.
Just my opinion. I like option A
