Re: [FIXED] [PH] Children will not stop making messes

What @daikoyu said.

I don't have Bust the Dust, but I made the mistake of creating a child Sim with the creative trait, and... yeah.  To repeat myself from the "autonomy" thread (because it belongs here)...

As I joked to a friend:

Parenting -> Discipline Recent Behavior -> Over It -> Put Up For Adoption

At the same time, I worried that perhaps his relationship with his parents would be damaged because he was SO PERSISTENT in making messes that basically the only times an adult interacted with him it was either "help with homework or school project" or progressively stricter discipline for all those messes. Seriously:

Kid: makes mess

Parent: Parenting -> Discipline recent behavior -> calm -> ask not to make a mess

Kid: immediately makes more mess

Parent: Parenting -> Discipline recent behavior -> firm -> express disappointment for making a mess

Kid: immediately makes more mess

Parent: Parenting -> Discipline recent behavior -> strict -> give time out for making a mess

Kid: goes into timeout with a snit, then immediately makes more mess

Me: You little (#)@*#@&#& WILL YOU STOP!

Parent: Parenting -> Discipline recent behavior -> punish -> ground for making a mess

Kid: little orange tense sliver at the end of a mass of inspired moodlets, so immediately makes more mess

Me: Is there a "put child up for adoption" option on the computer?

Parent: Parenting -> Discipline recent behavior -> punish -> double ground for making a mess

Kid: immediately makes more mess

Me: I will not delete a child. I will not delete a child. I will not delete a child. I will not....

Parent: Parenting -> Discipline recent behavior -> punish -> triple ground for making a mess

Ad nauseum. Eventually I got the bug where all options were "stealthily," like "steathily use toilet, stealthily get leftovers, stealthily do homework, and then stealthily go to bed." LOL, except that he hemorrhaged responsibility, argh!

I've since downloaded Bienchen's mod forbidding autonomous messes. 

TL;DR:  @daikoyu is absolutely correct that if they're inspired their default idle appears to be make a mess.  It's THE WORST and needs to STOP.

I can't imagine why they'd make "make mess" the default inspired action for children, when they seem absolutely determined to make half of the CAS objects for childrens re-colors of the exact same drawing station. Make them want to draw instead of wanting to misbehave! Where do they even get the stuff to make a mess with anyway? We never have to buy any ingredients, so why are are there so many of them around to the point children keep entire bottles of them on their person at all times...? Honestly, it breaks my immersion-- nevermind, this is becoming a rant.

As others have said, it's just tied to the clean floor inspired buff, and no matter how much you discipline your children with Parenting, they'll do it endlessly. Gotta love how impactful your Sims' actions are when they'll be disregarded not three seconds later!

@Saihyou  When I was 4, I scribbled all over one of my books because I had a mental image that the book would look gorgeous with intertwined scrollwork around the pages, which I didn't have the skill to execute (or the vocabulary to explain).  I never did it again after:

Mom:  Why did you do that?  WHY DID YOU DO THAT????? WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT???????

Me: I... thought it would be... pretty?

Mom:  *disgusted eyeroll*

So I can see a kid autonomously making a mess once because they're inspired.  Maybe twice!  I can't see a kid spilling paint or chocolate syrup all over the floor a million times a day while their parents greet each mess with "You're grounded!  No TV, computer, phone, friends, leaving the house, or breathing!"

It's the PERSISTENCE of the activity that's immersion-breaking.  Whyyyyyyyyyy do they do this as their default idle activity? Seriously, guys, what's up with the tuning on this activity?

I agree, it’s totally unbearable how much these stupid kids make messes. They could play an instrument, draw or play with dolls instead of making mess all the time when they’re inspired. I can understand toddlers making messes because they’re small but children look like 8-yo, they should know better especially if been grounded a few times. What is the point of parenting and high responsibility if it doesn’t affect their autonomy? 

It's two years later... I'm at the point of unaliving a child... this made me feel better haha 

Twins.  The genius one constantly makes messes... at home or in the park or at the neighbours...