Sims serenade too much

Product: The Sims 4
Platform:PC
Which language are you playing the game in? English
How often does the bug occur? Often (50% - 99%)
What is your current game version number? 1.82.99.1030
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? All except Journey to Batuu, Laundry Day Stuff Pack, Spooky Stuff Pack, and the kits.
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? 1. Make sure autonomy is on 2. Have two sims that are either dating or married to each other 3. One of the sims must have singing skill level 3 4. Both sims need to be in the same lot
What happens when the bug occurs? The sim with the singing skill level 3 will often queue the serenade interaction whenever their SO is in the same lot. They may even serenade their SO mid-conversation with other sims which may make an awkward conversation.
What do you expect to see? Less serenading. Perhaps let the sim serenade their SO when they are feeling flirty or at least once in a while (every few in-game days).
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Not now. I've removed them.
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? No

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There is one bug report that seemed to address this issue, but it only implies that female sims are often serenading towards their SO. However, I found that any sim with the singing skill level 3, regardless of gender, will obsessively serenade their SO.

The only workaround to fix this issue is to either remove the singing skill or lower the skill to level 1 or 2.

I ended up using MC Command Center's MC Tuner module to forbid Serenading because, yeah, if both Sims were on the lot at the same time and didn't have anything else queued, they were serenading each other. I blame this behavior for the bug where group conversations result in inappropriate love interests, as I had Sims living in a tiny house with their kids and their children and teens kept developing romance bars with their parents when random group conversations autonomously turned into serenade sessions.

Hi @xochiquetzl_xkvn 

I hope you don't mind me asking, but... How did you use MCCC Turner to disable Serenading? I would like to do the same thing. 

Again, I hope it is okay for me to ask this.

@xochiquetzl_xkvn 

Unfortunately there is no option in MCCC (at least as far as I can see) to disable serenading. I use MCCC Tuner options to disable random flirting, but serenades from NPCs still happen. For example: I sent all 3 heirs from my rotational play to university and was able to sit back and watch one of the roommates serenade every single sim in the household. I can't say if this happens between two NPCs as I always have my sims live in the houses on campus (instead of the dorms, they lag too much over time) and limit the beds to 4 so I only have to deal with 1 terrible roommate instead of 4-6. If you could elaborate on where you found this option in the Tuner settings it would be greatly appreciated. However, since I don't see the option I don't believe this is something that MCCC handles.

Regardless of MCCC having the ability (or not) to disable this behavior I would like to note that my sims are usually involved romantically with their suitors before sending them to school. Because of this I feel that the game should recognize that the target sim is in a romantic relationship (usually engaged) with another sim and not do this. Bad behavior coding. Another simple bug to fix with the proper scripting, if we could only hope for such a thing.

@RipRizzle, @Goodywood 

It's in the MC Tuner module. Click on your sim and choose MC Command Center > MC Tuner > Enable Autonomy Scan, then click the other Sim and pick Serenading. You can forbid a lot of actions in MC Tuner's autonomy scan.

It'll add a string to mc_tuner.cfg:

139900,self_Social_Serenade

I've also forbidden toilet pranking, cooking in the cauldron, and teens hacking their own school grades (for some reason if you have a club with "repair" as an activity, teens will try to hack their own school grades even if they have an A already!). Also children autonomously making messes, which is ten lines!

If you're having trouble finding it, you could create a file called mc_tuner.cfg and add that line.

@xochiquetzl_xkvn 

I appreciate the information on how to stop this behavior using MCCC. I actually haven't ever used the autonomy scan feature, so I can see how I would have overlooked its usefulness. I will give this a shot as I attempt to send my next heirs to university. Hopefully they can get more studying done and not have to constantly deal with their roommate trying to serenade them all day long.

Thanks again.

Thank you so much for replying @xochiquetzl_xkvn . I truly appreciate it! 🙂

This issue is getting quite annoying. I sent my next 3 sims to university with a solo roommate, the game spawned a bi-sexual male who has decided to go from sim to sim serenading them. What I dislike most about this issue is that I have to constantly remove an embarrassment mood from my own sims. If one of my sims is writing their term paper and the roommate decides he wants to serenade he will start the action continually until I cancel writing the paper and tell him to * off.

After attempting to use MCCC tuner, as suggested by @xochiquetzl_xkvn , I have found that this option only applies to sims that you control. Thus this feature is only useful when stopping your own sims when having full autonomy turned on. This is not applicable to my situation as I do not control the roommate. It has gotten so bad that the roommate will serenade so often that the will not care for himself and ends up urinating on the floor and passing out, often times in his own urine. Not to mention the stink from him refusing to shower. I see nothing that will help stop this behavior. I have destroyed his violin more times than I can count, but he just ends up with a new one. There is a chance that I have been able to finally stop this using MCCC, but I had to manually add a string and cross my fingers. Regardless, I should not have to rely on a mod to stop this behavior. (Confirmed that MCCC was unable to stop this behavior)

Any help from EA would be greatly appreciated.

EDIT: The original reports here are about sims that they control in their families, mine is not the same situation. If needed I can start a new bug report, but I figured this was the best place to report this.

@RipRizzle 

I have NOT attempted this. BUT.

There's a roommate quirk system where roommates engage in various quirky behaviors, like bringing in baked goods, cleaning, making messes, etc. One of those is "woo." "Woo" is the following your Sim around blowing kisses and serenading them all day behavior.

If you use MC Cheats, you might find the roommate behavior under buff control and be able to remove it. I'm assuming this will roll the dice and give him a chance of developing another behavior. (It might also be a trait, but I assume it's a buff.)

</done work for EA; have not tried this>