Sims start conversation with autonomy off
Product: The Sims 4 Platform:PC Which language are you playing the game in? English How often does the bug occur? Often (50% - 99%) What is your current game version number? 1.93.129.1030 Wha...
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I think this is not a bug. Sims always choose a topic, self with autonomy off. If you don’t fast enough the game will choose a talk topic. Sometimes the game will ignore your selected topic, which is annoying, but I think it is because you direct them a topic and at the same time the game choose another topic and in sims 4 the game will always win, not the player because we don’t have a true autonomy off mode in sims 4. // <- because of this we still get a lot of force actions as reaction to deco, reaction to swearing or running inside from a thunderstorm with autonomy off.
@daikoyu I agree with you, this doesn't sound like a bug. The autonomy setting doesn't really seem to impact conversations very much, if at all, because regardless of the autonomy setting sims will pick their own interactions as long as a conversation has already been started. Then even if you aren't already in a conversation, with autonomy off sims will still initiate conversations when their social need gets low.
Plus yeah like you said there is no true off for autonomy, because even when set to off sims will still do things to raise their needs once they drop really low. So really it's not that the autonomy toggle isn't working, it's just a misleading option since autonomy is never truly disabled.
- @valohim666 I get this doesn't seem like a bug, but previously autonomy off was a true off for me for conversations at least. Basically the Sims would just sit there in the conversation until I told them what to say next instead of what you see in the video. I do understand that it needs impact it. But the Sims in the game didn't have low social. I also don't mind needs impacting it in fact I like that. I just would like it to go back to the mostly true autonomy off.
@snowbelle789 That's interesting because I just don't remember a time where sims wouldn't autonomously do things in a conversation, and regardless of the autonomy setting. In fact it's always been something I kinda liked, because then I could turn autonomy off without my sim feeling like a puppet during conversations. So if it is unintended behavior, then it's something I've been experiencing for a long time. Plus hey to be fair this game has been broken for so long I'm not even sure what is or isn't a bug anymore, so you may just be right.
Either way, I've always wished that they would give us a true autonomy off option because then things like this could be avoided. I mean hey Sims 3 had 3 different autonomy options, why can't this game? For Sims 3 there was an option for fully on, an option for fully off, and a middle option which basically functioned like the "off" setting in Sims 4. I'm always seeing a bunch of autonomy related problems in the bug section, and being able to properly turn it off could be useful for some of those.
Agree with @valohim666 I had always this action, and I play since vampire release active this game with autonomy off. Are you sure you don’t used a mod for it and this mod is now broken? I agree that the game got aggressive with it. I cancel a topic and the game just chose the next in a second. I never had it so aggressive.
@valohim666 Sims3 had also forced actions, but this was very rare and never caused your sim to stand still or go in the last corridor in your house just to admire a stupid lamp. My favourite is always this force hug greeting, and if a youtuber rant again because he cancels the socializing before start, but his sim still goes to the target sim. Your Sim will still perform this hug-greeting, it is a hidden action in your queue, the same with admire the deco. Your sim will go to the target and perform this action. // Although admire deco works a little different. Your sim will cancel it halfway and try performing it short after again and cancel your active task again (showering is a good example)
Yeah, I miss a true autonomy off mode. In sims 4 I use a ton of mods just to remove all these forced actions. Sorry but my sim is not a fan of Judith Ward, and he don’t reaction if Bob Pancake needs to swear again in a restaurant + he doesn’t want to pet Mayor Whisker because he has a cat allergy!
