Lucky Girl - Completed

yeah Evie's family were never middle class white collar folk, and her grandmother living in a farmhouse implies that her husband once worked the land, so the traditional family structures would have been very much in place for decades. Men get up early, head out to work, come in at midday to have their lunch ready, and then head back out again. They will never learn to cook or clean or wash their own clothes. It's a very old fashioned mindset that kind of prevails in rural areas, but the roots of it are understandable. It's different now though, while Decky is a manual labourer, his brother Conor works in an office and their dad, well, he was a bachelor for years who was presumably living on his own & jetting off all over the world on exotic holidays. These men know how to help, they just don't, they're allowed to abstain from it.

I would agree that Marnie is to thank for Evie's change in mindset here, but college can do that to you, it would have been difficult to escape social justice oriented discourse on campus at that time - and the same now, I expect. The late 00s, early 10s were a real "awakening" time here as our country began to rapidly lean into more liberal politics and reject the traditional & often intolerant mindsets of past decades. (there are loads of complex reasons for this that are very boring so I won't explain.) Evie is rejecting traditionalism too, which is one of the things that taught her how to hate herself. You cannot respect yourself if your family views women as lesser, so she's breaking away from it in her own ways.

HAHA - fair, I feel like I'm embroiled in catholicism that when I see a church I'm like "huh. someone's having a mass. boring."

Right - so actually, Agnes was in the church during that scene and I wanted to use her as Ms. McCarthy because I thought it might be a funny little easter egg, but she left before I had a chance to talk to her! I just put her outfit on another random sim. So no, it's unfortunately not her :cry:

It's always mind games with Kelly, but I expect she's more used to tolerating Claire because she has to see her often and at least pretend to be nice to her so that Shane doesn't give her an earful. Also yeah I think you're right, Kelly wants Evie to be quiet and agreeable and was furious when she changed her tune, so her betrayal was somehow worse to her. Claire would be expected to be independent, Evie should not be.

Ugh, there is always something! But I think that Evie is the one who's obsessed with being single. Her mother was trying to bring up her alcohol consumption but Evie freaked out and made it about her singleness. Marian was only saying that girls who drink are unattractive and didn't disagree when Evie asked her if that's why she thinks she's single, but that's not the point she was making. Evie is so obsessed with being defective that it seeps into everything, she's actually the one that brings it up - poor pet.

Marnie is good, then bad, then kinda okay, then awful, it's a flip flop kind of friendship!

Yes exactly! She does not want to discuss the alcohol, she doesn't see that as the primary issue, only that she's single, which likely. nobody at that table cared about.