MUSIC PACK & BANDS PACK, all your ideas (sims 4)

"carpe_diem;d-987143" wrote:
What do YOU want in a music pack? PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SHARE YOUR IDEAS! :)

Battle of the Bands.

With more instruments, and the ability to form bands, and have music festivals.
Start out as a teenage garage band, go through uni playing in local bars and pubs, either get signed to a label (who dictate a bunch of changes, including changes to your bands lineup), or go DIY, and have to work on the side while you slowly claw your way to fame, but have complete creative control.

The two roads to fame.
Road1: getting signed, it's a faster way to the top, and has more money coming in faster, but it means losing creative options, with the game dictating the direction of the band, it's style, and the music played. It also means a faster route back down to being 'last years news'

Road 2: DIY. Its blood, sweat, and tears. It's a slow climb, and your sims might have to have side jobs to keep it going for a while, but eventually you will start to gain success. The plateau at the top lasts longer, and the decline after is slow, leading to an 'old school influence' status.

Get invited to play at music festivals, your timeslot indicates your level of popularity. If you're in the first slot, you've got a chance at fame, but no one knows your name, if you're the last act, then you've made it to the top.

This could come with its own world, one that has two recording studios, the plush, and shiny, all inclusive (so long as you've signed away your creative rights) Sellout Studio, and the dark and dingy Den of DIY, where you pay by the hour, but the coffee is free. DIY bands who are at, or nearing the top, can hire the fancy studio, but it costs a lot more than the Den.

The world could also contain a music festival park, a pub to book gigs at, and a fancier music hall, for middling+ bands to have concerts at.

There would also need to be the ability to create your own merch: Tshirts, hoodies, underpants, posters, and CDs (or old school vinyl).

I copy paste this one in almost all music/ band dedicated threads:

Bands and Musical Ensembles.

• A system very like the GT Club mechanics will give a player the option to form a band or a musical group.
  
• A sim with enough skill in a particular instrument can start a band or ensemble and start a band practice.
  
• A band or group with high enough band skill will be able to organize a gig, or attract a manager who will organize gigs for them.
  
• A band may be invited to play at a Wedding or other Event.
  
• A band or group will receive ratings based on their performance and music sales.
  
• The group can give their revenue a boost with sales in merchandise.
  

Some bands or ensembles that can be created:

• Rock/ Indie/ (Synth) Pop band.
  
• Hip Hop/Rap group.
  
• Choir. (kids,classical, gospel)
  
• String Quartet.
  

Instruments and skills that currently exist but can be used in combination:

• Piano.(BG) Synth (CL)
  
• Acoustic Guitar. (BG)
  
• Violin.(BG).
  
• Singing. (CL)
  
• Organ. (Vampires).
  

Instruments and skills to be added to such an EP:

• Electric Guitar.
  
• Bass Guitar.
  
• Drums.
  
• Cello & Double Bass.
  
• A Rapper Mic/ Sound Box?
  
• Saxophone
  

Crossover with other EP's:

• Bands performance level will influence the Fame system in GF.
  
• A Sim with a DU degree in Fine Art or Drama will get higher pay out for completed gigs.
  
• Gigs will be added to the calendar in Seasons.
  
• Create a Merch. Store via GTW retail.

I can see this as part of an EP as I'm aware it takes a considerable amount of resources to record music for different genres at different levels in different combinations and create animations based on each variant.

But hey, it would be nice.

ETA: I'd like to add that a world with music venues and stages could (should) be part of this EP.

@CAPTAIN_NXR7 Yaaas great ideas!! I agree with everything, but I do hope that we can get a specific university Degree in music. (It makes no sense that your sim needs to become an excellent painter to succeed as a guitarist :/ ). Thanks for putting all this together! :)

"CAPTAIN_NXR7;c-17818840" wrote:
I copy paste this one in almost all music/ band dedicated threads:

Bands and Musical Ensembles.

• A system very like the GT Club mechanics will give a player the option to form a band or a musical group.
  
• A sim with enough skill in a particular instrument can start a band or ensemble and start a band practice.
  
• A band or group with high enough band skill will be able to organize a gig, or attract a manager who will organize gigs for them.
  
• A band may be invited to play at a Wedding or other Event.
  
• A band or group will receive ratings based on their performance and music sales.
  
• The group can give their revenue a boost with sales in merchandise.
  

Some bands or ensembles that can be created:

• Rock/ Indie/ (Synth) Pop band.
  
• Hip Hop/Rap group.
  
• Choir. (kids,classical, gospel)
  
• String Quartet.
  

Instruments and skills that currently exist but can be used in combination:

• Piano.(BG) Synth (CL)
  
• Acoustic Guitar. (BG)
  
• Violin.(BG).
  
• Singing. (CL)
  
• Organ. (Vampires).
  

Instruments and skills to be added to such an EP:

• Electric Guitar.
  
• Bass Guitar.
  
• Drums.
  
• Cello & Double Bass.
  
• A Rapper Mic/ Sound Box?
  
• Saxophone
  

Crossover with other EP's:

• Bands performance level will influence the Fame system in GF.
  
• A Sim with a DU degree in Fine Art or Drama will get higher pay out for completed gigs.
  
• Gigs will be added to the calendar in Seasons.
  
• Create a Merch. Store via GTW retail.

I can see this as part of an EP as I'm aware it takes a considerable amount of resources to record music for different genres at different levels in different combinations and create animations based on each variant.

But hey, it would be nice.

ETA: I'd like to add that a world with music venues and stages could (should) be part of this EP.

I would sooo buy this!

Plum the plum skills and careeres and traits and festivals, we need an actual music band pack which would allow us to create our own custom music! That means, we need leading vocals and backing vocals, leading instrumentals and backing instrumentals, and most importantly - we need tools to synchronize them. And some new music instruments, like bass guitar, set of drums, strings, flute, and the like.

The way I use most features in the game is by combining them to create my own narratives, and am usually not very interested in the fixed features such as specific careers, more what I could do with the little things surrounding them, so to speak. I would buy a musical pack, and your ideas are all fine, but the way I would want it to work would be to make these things possible:

For sims to be able to stand on a stage performing, without having money thrown at them.
That should only be done for a street performer, it could perhaps be tied to that object instead of to the performance. It is tacky to throw money at an opera singer in a concert hall for instance, no one would do that, and I would appreciate if the feature was reworked.

That the sims watching the Live Entertainment would sit down, if chairs were provided.
There are differences between concerts: at pop or jazz concerts the audience can stand up and loudly appreciate the band; but at a classic piece performance, they sit down, quietly. I want to be able to stage all kinds of different performances.

That the sims watching the performance does not have to be so close to the performer.
I want to be able to make a proper stage, by a plattform and some chairs in front of it, but a bit away from it, just like in real life. In a theatre hall or amphi theater, the sims sitting in the far away places should be able to do the action Watch Live Entertainment, without having to run in front of the performer.

More varied additions of song and musical pieces.
Performers, both musicians and singers, should be able to perform pieces from many more musical genres than there now exists in the game. I would appreciate opera, jazz, and folk music.

"Auroraskies;c-17836696" wrote:
The way I use most features in the game is by combining them to create my own narratives, and am usually not very interested in the fixed features such as specific careers, more what I could do with the little things surrounding them, so to speak. I would buy a musical pack, and your ideas are all fine, but the way I would want it to work would be to make these things possible:

For sims to be able to stand on a stage performing, without having money thrown at them.
That should only be done for a street performer, it could perhaps be tied to that object instead of to the performance. It is tacky to throw money at an opera singer in a concert hall for instance, no one would do that, and I would appreciate if the feature was reworked.

I play similar style and this bothers me as well, especially when I hire a sim specifically to play at some venue. Playing for tips should be a separate interaction not a given whenever someone plays an instrument. Maybe they could add different interactions that would generate different behavior from the audience. People behave differently at a rock concert than at a classical music concert and yes, they should keep their distance and stay at least two tiles away from the performer unless they are mobbing him/her because of their celebrity status.

"Auroraskies;c-17836696" wrote:

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The way I use most features in the game is by combining them to create my own narratives, and am usually not very interested in the fixed features such as specific careers, more what I could do with the little things surrounding them, so to speak. I would buy a musical pack, and your ideas are all fine, but the way I would want it to work would be to make these things possible:

For sims to be able to stand on a stage performing, without having money thrown at them.
That should only be done for a street performer, it could perhaps be tied to that object instead of to the performance. It is tacky to throw money at an opera singer in a concert hall for instance, no one would do that, and I would appreciate if the feature was reworked.

That the sims watching the Live Entertainment would sit down, if chairs were provided.
There are differences between concerts: at pop or jazz concerts the audience can stand up and loudly appreciate the band; but at a classic piece performance, they sit down, quietly. I want to be able to stage all kinds of different performances.

That the sims watching the performance does not have to be so close to the performer.
I want to be able to make a proper stage, by a plattform and some chairs in front of it, but a bit away from it, just like in real life. In a theatre hall or amphi theater, the sims sitting in the far away places should be able to do the action Watch Live Entertainment, without having to run in front of the performer.

More varied additions of song and musical pieces.
Performers, both musicians and singers, should be able to perform pieces from many more musical genres than there now exists in the game. I would appreciate opera, jazz, and folk music.

Yeah they really need to fix so we can have functional stages and the audience need to behave adequate for the style of music/concert. One way could be if they add 2 new lot types: Fine concert hall -sims sitting down and enjoying the music and a Stadium -sims standing up/for bands???)
And yes to more music genres!!!

I would love a lot trait that would encourage sims to sit down to watch a performance, be it singing, playing, theatrical acting, movies etc; and to keep their attention on it for approximately a sim hour, without the need to wander about. The lot trait could then be used for theatres, cinemas, concert halls, etc. TS3 had the option to add/not add seatings to the festival lot (I believe it was), and by that controlling the sims behaviour: if chairs were added, the sims used them, if not, they stood up. So the lot trait could theoretically have this as a double feature.

All I want is a keytar with 80s songs. Like “take on me”, “jump” or “don’t you (forget about me)”. Make it a kit, expansion, stuff pack, whatever. I’ve given up on complaining about EA’s macrotransaction policy. Just give me more retro crap and we call it even. Yours, R