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- Ancaryvan5 years agoSeasoned Newcomer
"sbsong66;c-17695584" wrote:
Hi, I am a Korean user and I'd like to ask something about the upcoming Snowy Escape Pack. I posted the same thing with replies to SimguruNinja's twitter but I'm posting here too in case he couldn't read my tweets. I wanted to post this as a new thread but I'm leaving this here since I'm a new member to the forum and have no permission to start a new thread.
We can see the motions of the sims bowing to the shrines in the trailer... And... Do sims actually bow to the shrine in-game? I'm discussing this because this Shrine thing is part of a very painful history for Korea, and many users in the Korean Sims community are enraged at this content. Japan used to invade and exploit Korea for decades and this "Shrine Visit" was one of the things that they compelled us Koreans to do. This is one of the most nortorious symbolic things about the invasion of Japan, and mentioning the topic itself REALLY enrages Koreans. Just note that currently so many Koreans simmers, including me, are extremely disappointed at this feature and some are even planning to quit playing the Sims series they've played since the Sims 1.
I know that the shrine is an important part of the Japanese culture. But I don't think it's right for the company who makes games for people all around the world to add any content that is traumatic to some society.
If this "shrine interaction" is only a thing that is acted out for the trailer, then okay. But if this is an actual interaction that users can do in-game, I'd like to request... Can you please consider deleting it? We don't wish the shrine objects to be completely removed to the game, since it's an important part of the Japanese culture. But please just keep it as a plain object which we can't bow to... I guess that won’t be that hard because it’s a small one. Keeping this interaction will mean that you guys are ignoring the entire Korean users and our painful history. Thank you for reading my suggestion. I really hope that I'll get replied.
Well, in the game you have the choice of NOT TOUCHING the shrine! If it's an eye sore in your game, mod it out, replace into 돌하르방, The Elder Stone if you have to, that's all I can recommend to all your fellow Korean Simmers because global Simmers simply treated THIS expansion as casual vacation trip without anyone thinking TOO MUCH! Sometime It's wise to act blissfully ignorant.
One last note, this vacation pack IS base on Japan only because so far, imo, Japan is more popular as tourist destination. - I could understand being angry if they included something truly offensive like Yasukuni Shrine in the game, but accurate representation of Japanese culture is not a slight against Korea.
- StripedRainbow5 years agoNew SpectatorSo will the trains be functional? Looks so cool! Pun intended :D
"Dianesims;c-17694596" wrote:
Ok so I saw :
-Onsen
-Skiing
-Sledding
-Snowboarding
- NEW KITCHEN COUNTERS, (and island, and stove, and fridge but no cabinets it seems ,* ahem*....). I wish they were more versatile though and I hope these counters also have CLOSED off versions.
- NEW COOKING APPLIANCE : Fondue pot ?
- The world is stunning.
- I saw nice new hairs (finally new pigtail braids).
Nothing about hotels though :(
I think that appliance is a Japanese Hot Pot. Not sure if it does just the one dish though.- Vending machines? So excited for vending machines!
"Dianesims;c-17694921" wrote:
Well there's one in Brindleton Bay (for pets) and they didn't make it a lot type, so it might be the same here."Simburian;c-17694911" wrote:
We are getting a graveyard at last. I wonder if we can bring our urns to it for a proper burial or can use it elsewhere? A Happy Haunts pack might come in the future........
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Even the hiking trails just outside of town offer something new every time. Explore bamboo forests, pause to reflect at the graveyard, or visit the mountain temple with friends to get the full experience. Do remember to dress appropriately, though—depending on where you are, it sure can get cold here!"
Yes, it's here
https://i.ibb.co/MSZQSgy/grave.png
Full here (need to download to zoom in) https://ibb.co/0JW9wHj"relure;c-17696491" wrote:
I REQUIRE EA TO ELIMINATE 'SHRINE WORSHIP' INTERACTION from the 'Snowy Escape' expansion pack.
I think the Sims4 should not respect a symbol of the victims' scars as a culture of the country.
In Japanese colonial era, Japan built numerous shrines in Korea and forced Koreans to bow to them.
This is not just Korea's history.
Other Japanese colonies, such as China, share the same pain with Korea.
The forced worship was very humiliating to the people of the time, and it gave them indelible scars.
Even today, shrine worship is a symbol of coercion and oppression for Koreans, and it causes displeasure and anger to them.
Once again, I require EA to eliminate the shrine worship interaction from the 'Snowy Escape' expansion pack.
Thank you.
you know you can just not use the interaction?
there is lot of players that like that feature and want to use it and it's unfair to say "no you can't worship because i don't feel good about worshipping that thing myself"
it would be different if game forced you to use it or sims forced your sim to use it but that isn't what is happening here
also its not like you would travel to japan and go to shrine and tell other people to not worship because you don't feel good about them doing that
some people will worship at shrines and in this world sims like that exist- I just saw the announcement and was a little underwhelmed. "Snowy Escape" and people playing around in the snow is perfectly fine, but isn't really my thing and seems more like a Game Pack. Then I actually saw the world stuff and my interest went up considerably. I was just thinking about how I'd like to see a world with a theme closer to this.
I probably won't get this anytime soon (unless I get it as a gift like my last Pack) because I think I need something bigger for how burned out I feel at the moment, but it managed to immediately jump to the top of my Sims wishlist. The name still seems like an odd choice though, and makes it sound a lot more narrow and generic than it is (I know most of them have fairly generic names, but I feel like they get a concept down better). - Okay, but is there split leveling there?
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