Is TS4's broken personality system irrepairable at this point?

No one knows if it can be repaired as EA/Maxis has an poor track record of tweaking their game and they are the ones who knows if it can be fixed. It is probably too much work for them to do and may interfere with their work on packs(their priority these days). If EA/Maxis put in the work it maybe can be done, but right now over 7 years has passed and Sims 4 is still having problems.

Unfortunately I don't think they will ever address it. For some reason, most players simply don't seem to care, they're more concerned with silly little bugs that don't affect gameplay in any meaningful way.

If it can't be changed, at least I would like to be able to add more traits per character, three are just too few, I think six or more would be good, it would definitely help in giving more personality to the characters

"Nate_Whiplash1;c-17958140" wrote:
Unfortunately I don't think they will ever address it. For some reason, most players simply don't seem to care, they're more concerned with silly little bugs that don't affect gameplay in any meaningful way.

About the bolded part, very subjective, as something what may seem minor to you, may be game breaking to someone else :)

"Ellupelluellu;c-17958160" wrote:

"Nate_Whiplash1;c-17958140" wrote:
Unfortunately I don't think they will ever address it. For some reason, most players simply don't seem to care, they're more concerned with silly little bugs that don't affect gameplay in any meaningful way.

About the bolded part, very subjective, as something what may seem minor to you, may be game breaking to someone else :)

I'm sorry, but problems with mirror bugs or lactose intolerant traits are not game breakers, they're slight inconveniences at best

Nate, I've been saying this for years as part of the #EAListen movement on Twitter.

1) We need the diametric personality sliders (Sims 2 style) e.g. active-lazy, outgoing-shy, neat-messy. This is the CORE Personality. Sims AI (what actions they choose by default), as well as the animation styles that are used (such as how they react or talk with other sims), are DETERMINED first by the core personality. I detest that EA threw this amazing personality system away in favor of Sims 3 traits

2) HOWEVER, traits still have their place. Traits ON TOP of personality adds additional flavor.

A good question: why can't traits alone suffice? Answer: the act of forcing the core personality into a diametric slider of extremes (e.g., strong active, neutral, or strong lazy) as well as over a fixed number of dimensions (5 aspects of personality in the sims 2) that is consistent for ALL SIMS no matter the future expansion packs make the personality ACTUALLY PROGRAMMABLE AND LOGICAL.

It's reasonable to make animations and AI decisions by saying....okay, if your Sim has at least 7 out of 10 in the direction of active, we're going to give them the quick get-out-of-bed animation instead of the slow get-out-of-bed. Basically, every Sim can get be bucketed into one of the extremes or neutral for every personality aspect.

With traits...there is an effectively infinite number of them, and they range in type. A "vegan" trait is different from a "neurotic" trait which is different from an "ambitious" trait. Sure, you can program specific quirks or abilities for each trait, but they range in type and not every Sim has a degree of strength in every single trait. This makes programming animations and AI difficult for every single trait. The problem expands when you add additional traits.

They wont do it for ts4. Hope for ts5 or not at all.

We need a return of personality points AND traits, along with prefereces/likes/dislikes for interests, activites, foods, and a sophisticated attraction system.

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"simmerorigin;c-17958326" wrote:
2) HOWEVER, traits still have their place. Traits ON TOP of personality adds additional flavor.

I would love to see this happen. Having a fix set of characteristics your sims will have, regardless of their traits, and being able to pick where they stand regarding it, and also having traits to fill the gaps that don't fit those categories. It would be awesome.

Characteristics would be fine, but the "one size fits all" ones we have now have to be done away with, or it wouldn't work