This is basically a scam....

"dogboy678;c-15826377" wrote:
I do think it's a little resiculous not to have seasons in the a life simulation game I mean come on. Pets aren't necessary I suppose it's fine if they are dog though if I were to make a life sim I would put pets in base game. Other than that I really love the sims though I only really started really playing with sims 4 so I suppose it will be irritating to go to sims 5 when it has not as many options so I hope they give me a reason to buy it. (I'm still going to buy it either way XD)

I've played Sims since I pretested the first game in 1999 - so I am used to it. I would not want to pay the price of a Sims game with all the packs already in it. It is fun to me to get it in stages - and plus you get familiar with each pack getting it a piece at a time. Sims are not like any other game so delivering it through parts at a time is part of playing the game as technically the game has no right way to play - no requirements - no battles that have to be fought - so getting it through packs and building it up is much like life - which the game is after all a game about life and endless possibilities.

In real life very few people start out on their own with everything - no we work through life and add to our possessions and such as we get more and more sucessful - well on that play on life the Sims world grows and builds a bit at a time - plus you can actually pick and choose whether or not you want to experience something offered in the game by getting the packs instead of you being forced to have everything at once.

I really have always enjoyed that aspect of the game - to see what we get next. Plus if ever I want to play a complete game - well I still have Sims 2 and Sims 3 on my pc along with the games I was playing. So if I get bored waiting for new stuff for 4 I can just go play my complete other Sims games. (But lately Sims 4 keeps me pretty much occupied the last few months - so I haven't been bored at all).

No I doubt pets will ever be a base game thing - seeing believe it or not - not everyone wants pets. So I think it is always good to offer packs also for that reason - so if someone doesn't want pets - well they don't have to have them - but if they do - then they have that option. It is the same with many things in the game - not every one like the same as everyone else. It is really the best way instead of forcing things into peoples games they don't want. Granted there is always a few that does not want the main theme but they want everything else. Not much I can say about those people. But me - I pretty much like everything. The more stuff the happier I am and buying it a pack at the time does not create financial havoc for me. Simmers have shown for 17 years that method works for us - even if a few gripe about it - it is a good formula to me.

Anyway I know I am a little late but welcome to The Sims with Sims 4 - enjoy.

"PrincessVee;c-15825485" wrote:

"Orchid13;c-15824441" wrote:

"princess_kaguya;c-15823273" wrote:

"Orchid13;c-15823206" wrote:

"Simanite;c-15823120" wrote:
I'm sure it's going to include small animals as well. Just not horses.

Me too. They have always included small animals

they also always included robbers and firefighters

I'm talking about the pets EP only

But it's not called "pets". It's called "cats and dogs.

That's not even official lol plus even if that turns out to be true , it's probably because it's the main focus

The only way things change is through the power of money. Money comes through the consumer the buyer. If even one bad review brings down your sales. a smart company takes a glance at what may have gone wrong. But if you have many bad reviews, and not just reviews but low sales, that makes a change. Will Sims 4 have low sales Noway If you keep buying from a shop and your not happy with what your buy. then you're not buying for the reason of just the product.

So maybe the smart company are getting you to buy with attaching other things. Like friends and chat rooms.popularty of having all of the lines for a product. Understand not all people buy the Sims 4 to play the sims . Some buy the sims 4 just to build. and will buy new packs to add more textures hair and doors windows and such. I care much more about building in the game. But I do have many families in the game.I will buy the next game pack because I know it will be more things to build with. Will they make creators build pack? I do not think so it's not going to make much money. better to just add a little of that in each pack. I think most creators would stick to buying only building pack if had the chance. maybe some of the other because we do play as well some. But the heart of most creators is in the creating.

So find out why you buy what your complaint about. If you enjoy the community then you are buying to be in the community. Whatever your Reason, we stay. we keep buying new packs. So if enough people say, hey I don't like this, and so I will not buy it. But! if you do not buy the new pack. you will not know whats in it. rather its good or bad. So then you can not come on here and talk about it. So yes we will buy it. We do not wish to miss out.
This is more like a company of the future. Say you have a new baby, now you can feed that baby good food a little at a time and keep that baby happy. or you can feed it lots of food all at once and make that baby fat and unhappy and soon it would be too fat to enjoy playing. we have Mirrors now do anyone even know that so cool we can see our self perfectly. If they put everything in the game you will miss most of their hard work. So they are not so bad right :)

"Writin_Reg;c-15825587" wrote:

"drake_mccarty;c-15824597" wrote:

"Simanite;c-15823120" wrote:
I'm sure it's going to include small animals as well. Just not horses.

You honestly never know. There was a survey listing for a small pets GP. Now why would that be making the rounds if small pets were covered in a Pets EP? I doubt they would give small pets double coverage (an EP and a full GP) so the reality is that they very well may not be included and instead sold as a GP, which I assume is how horses will be added if they do.

Don't doubt that - it happened before in Sims 2. We had a pets ep for dogs, cats, and Parrots (there were skunks, wolves, and raccoons too but they were not pets - some of the wolves could make your sim a werewolf) then the very last ep - Apt Life had small pets for apts all of which were in cages - even small dogs and cats, wombats, and more. So Sims 2 we basically had two EPS that had pets in them.With 2 years separating the normal pets from the small ones.

Hi @Writin_Reg, I responded to you previously about this topic I am assuming you missed it.

Pets was the only pack to add pets of any kind in Sims 2. Pets had dogs, cats, birds, rodents, and a new fish tank.

Apartment life included one 'indoor dog pen' that functioned like a baby in Sims 4 minus the dog ever growing up because it was not an actual dog. It's an object and nothing more. No other animals were included with apartment life, they were all included with Pets.

I don't believe Pets is coming out anytime soon based on false impossible info about something being in a game folder or whatever nonsence people are spreading .It's not real.I've looked in my folder there's nothing there.

"KeyserFn;c-15830390" wrote:
I don't believe Pets is coming out anytime soon based on false impossible info about something being in a game folder or whatever nonsence people are spreading .It's not real.I've looked in my folder there's nothing there.

It's not nonsense. It's there. You can find it yourself if you extract xml files.
You need extracted xml game files from your game folder not your documents folder.

"KeyserFn;c-15830390" wrote:
I don't believe Pets is coming out anytime soon based on false impossible info about something being in a game folder or whatever nonsence people are spreading .It's not real.I've looked in my folder there's nothing there.

Lol so you understand more about game files n stuff than modders? Sure xD

"KeyserFn;c-15830390" wrote:
I don't believe Pets is coming out anytime soon based on false impossible info about something being in a game folder or whatever nonsence people are spreading .It's not real.I've looked in my folder there's nothing there.

... seriously? The best modder found ir lol

"Orchid13;c-15830674" wrote:

"KeyserFn;c-15830390" wrote:
I don't believe Pets is coming out anytime soon based on false impossible info about something being in a game folder or whatever nonsence people are spreading .It's not real.I've looked in my folder there's nothing there.

... seriously? The best modder found ir lol

She's probably looking in the folder under my documents instead of the games folders under programs where game folders go. I cannot believe the number of people who think the only folder this game puts on their pc is the My documents folders where the saves and her personal play files go. LOL.

Saying people are liars because she does not know where to look is rather rude though if you ask me.

"KeyserFn;c-15830390" wrote:
I don't believe Pets is coming out anytime soon based on false impossible info about something being in a game folder or whatever nonsence people are spreading .It's not real.I've looked in my folder there's nothing there.

There is coding for dogs and cats that's been added in some of the recent patches -- mainly to spread out the updates so you don't have a giant update patch in the fall (we saw something similar in December with some of the vampire coding showing up in that month's patch). So it does look like there is a Pets pack on the horizon -- the question is the actual scope of the pack. We don't know enough about that to call it a "scam" -- it's pretty certain that we won't get horses because of the nature of the Sims worlds, but what if we got werewolves (they made the best pet trainers in Sims 2)? Or an actual veterinarian we can take our pets for treatment? Maybe the CAP (Create A Pet) system will be far more detailed so people can mix multiple breeds and get true "Heinz 57" dogs and cats? I know someone with a cat that's got the standard tabby coloring, but may have some Maine C.o.o.n. (to avoid potential censor issues) mixed in because the cat is huge and is still technically a kitten. Only when we see the extent of the pack can we judge if it fits our gameplay as individual Simmers.