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How to change custom skins?

Hello!

I am not new to using custom skins, but I have never really mess and try to edit them. I only use custom skin on sims from a creator (Gallery/TSR/Patreon). So I noticed that my one sim uses Lauruna Skin by MsBlue, and the other uses Beauty Skin Female V2 by MsBlue. Both also use Skintone Set V3 by MsBlue. So, I noticed earlier in-game that they do have different skins, I can easily tell by their navel. My question is, how do I change the second sim to use Lauruna Skin, and vice versa? I thought those skins are listed in skin color selection but what it did was only changing the color of their skin so I try to find the custom skins on Skin Details but I only found bunch of vitiligo skins. I think I saw people on YouTube using their skin overlay inside Skin Details section. Is this a bug? What I'm trying to do is --especially for those who know and use Skin Female V2 by MsBlue-- it has a navel that isn't centered so it won't work well with many belly piercing CCs so I wanna try to change it to my other installed custom skins to see which one is more perfectly suited.

Here I have another list of questions:

  • How many types of custom skins are there? (I don't know the difference of 'skintone' and 'skin overlay', never create a sim using it, and want to know how to use it.)
  • What types are those custom skins I've mentioned above?
  • I used Content Management > Batch Fixes > CAS > Update Skintones in Sims 4 Studio but it only fixed the lower part of the skin color selection section. I still can't find list of installed custom skins.
  • I checked using S4TI (Sims 4 Tray Importer) and found that Skintone Set V3 by MsBlue is labeled <Dependencies not found> and 5 red lines below it. What is this? Does this tell a broken/corrupted mod? I tried to download the skin again (to check if it's updated) but the label is still there. However I did not found any issue using it on my sims in-game.

I tried to look on the internet about this but I am still unsure and it's kind of hard to find people who gives basic information about this so I decided to post this thread. Sorry I use many mods without learning how to create/edit and the basic knowledge of them. Thanks! 🙂

  • @luthienrising Huh finally I found the solution to my problem. Beauty Skin Female V2 and Lauruna Skin are still compatible until today even though these are old files. Turns out they are listed in Skin Details in Face section, not the Body. I've been searching for this for a while until I found out that those skins are categorized as Head > Face > Skin Details in Sims 4 Mod Manager when I was organizing my CCs recently. Now I can change my sim's skin to my preferred ones. I know this must be the basic knowledge of sims modding but I've never create a sim using custom skins by myself -- making me not knowing where it placed.

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  • Assuming creators are using the terms right:

    • Skin = default appearance
    • Skintone = colour
    • Skin overaly = goes on top of a skin

    Both Beauty Skin Female V2 and Lauruna Skin are also categorized as Skintones in TSR - all three are.

    I downloaded all three and added them to the test save I was using for other things today and made new Sims. Notably, in Skintones only a few were marked as CC, and with nothing suggesting there are other skintones available. I think your issue here is that these are old files, from before some really big changes to the skintone system and its UI, which was in 2020.

    Anyway, I put one Sim in a no-wrench skintone and the other two in different wrenched tones. S4TI shows that all three Sims are using Skintone Set 3, so I think that's behaving like a default skin... but one that's trying to call up XML not currently in the game.

    Unfortunately, I think your solution here is to find more recent skin CC.

    NOTE: I may be missing something here. But this is what I suspect based on how old these files are.

  • @luthienrising Hmm, so are you implying that I can only change their skin using recent custom skin/skin overlay and I can select them from Skin Details section? Is it true that skin overlays are listed in Skin Details?

    I forgot to mention, the first sim is Lea Sawyer by divaka45 and the second is Britney Chamberlain also by divaka45 both from TSR and yes they are old sims, I think they were both created in 2017.

    Also, is it true that it means I can't use Lauruna Skin and Beauty Skin Female V2 on my newly created sim?

    Edit:

    I have another question regarding CC management. I've downloaded a bunch of sims with its CCs and found that they're almost always use at least 1 same CC. When it comes to CC management especially sims, I separate the folder by the sim name i.e: /Mods/Sims/divaka45 (author name)/Lea Sawyer (sim name) so it's way easier for me to track and preserve what CC used by their respective sims. Currently for the previously used CC on previous installed sims, on the second sim using that CC I use Windows shortcut to keep CCs from duplicating while still giving me information on what CC they're using. But it's really a hassle when it comes to adding +20 sims.

    To prevent this, can I merge all CC packages used by Lea and merge all CC packages used by Britney using Sims 4 Studio? Will the game and S4TI still detect duplicates by doing that?

    While still keeping backup of individual sim's CCs on another folder in case one of CC is broken or needs to be updated.

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    luthienrising
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    2 years ago

    @nativecoruscant Most creators put their skin overlays in Skin Details, but not all. And yes, there are definitely a lot of old skin mods that are no longer compatible with the game because of the 2020 update.

    For CC management, it's really important to make sure you don't end up with duplicates. I recomment sorting by creator, not by what Sims you use it on. It's going to be a lot easier in the long run for when you have a lot of Sims or a lot of CC, or for when a whole category of CC breaks and you need to update files.

    Please don't merge files. It gives you no load time advantage, increases the chance of duplicates, and means you can't find that CC when it breaks or needs an update.

    Really, you'll be better served by not trying to sort by Sim. If you want separate tracking for what a Sim is using, without needing to use tools like MC Command Center or Tray Importer to show you what a Sim is wearing, you could keep a spreadsheet or document.

  • @luthienrising Okay, maybe I'll try to give my old sims some newer skin overlays to change the look of their skin.

    Would you recommend to sort solely by its creator? How about clothing, skins, shoes, furnitures -- do I still need to make /Skins, /Shoes, or still stick to sort only using creator?

    Huh right, it really does make sense that merging packages will be way harder in the long run.

    Yes, I use S4TI very often to track which CC is used by a sim and lot and which one is installed properly, and of course check if there's any duplicates. I also use MCCC for years but never knew and tried all of its features. How do I track what CC used by a sim with MCCC?

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    luthienrising
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    2 years ago

    @nativecoruscant Personally, I prefer creator as my main sorting level. For creatos I have a lot of content from, I might break that down into subfolders. But the goal is to have a consistent structure that makes it easy to find older versions of content or content that's been reported as broken.

    I'm honestly not sure how the MCCC function works, and I don't have it fully installed to test right now. My vague recollection is that it comes up in the shift-click menu on a Sim. Deaderppool has good support, though. You could ask there.

  • @luthienrising Thanks for the suggestion and warning! I might use TwistedMexi's mod organization template as it's sorting by creators but also dividing by categories 🙂

  • @luthienrising Huh finally I found the solution to my problem. Beauty Skin Female V2 and Lauruna Skin are still compatible until today even though these are old files. Turns out they are listed in Skin Details in Face section, not the Body. I've been searching for this for a while until I found out that those skins are categorized as Head > Face > Skin Details in Sims 4 Mod Manager when I was organizing my CCs recently. Now I can change my sim's skin to my preferred ones. I know this must be the basic knowledge of sims modding but I've never create a sim using custom skins by myself -- making me not knowing where it placed.

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    luthienrising
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    2 years ago

    @nativecoruscant A heads up with using Sims 4 Mod Manager -- it renames mod files, which can make it easy to end up with duplicates. Watch for that.

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