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With every patch/game update mods/cc become outdated or even obsolete. Some mods are outdated with almost every patch, others hardly ever. This is just how mods work and is no one's fault.
Running your save with an outdated mod can lead to serious issues though to the point where you can't even load the game. In most cases, removing the outdated mods will fix the game but there are instances where this is not the case
Because of this, it's very important to make a backup of your saves before every patch. This is also recommended if you don't use mods cause there are of course also new game bugs. It's also advisable that if you do run into issue to leave the game without saving.
What's the purpose of this thread ?
Some mods show (almost) identical symptoms with every patch others show new symptoms with a specific patch.
To help with all that, this thread contains a list of symptoms and possible culprits. If you have further issues, please post in this thread so other mod users can help you figure out what the issue is or use the 50/50 Method (works for all versions of the Sims) to find faulty mod/cc yourself. If you exhausted all troubleshooting steps provided and still have issues on a new save game with an empty mods folder, please post describing what you have tried.
A good mod that can assist you with finding outdated mods is Better Exceptions by TwistedMexi.
This list is not conclusive and always a work in progress. New threads will be added so check often. There can also be other mods that cause the same issues but aren't listed.
Please always delete the localthumbcache file (a cache file that will recreate when you restart the game) after deleting or adding mods/cc. You can find some more info on the file here
Other Resources
Known Symptoms
The list refers to mods that are outdated. It won't be about issues that a updated mods have. This is another topic and is best taken to creator.
There's a main thread for MCCC not working here MC Command Center not showing up but it's always best to check Deaderpools Discord instead of asking here.
Horse Ranch
Symptom: Traits for Horses Not working
Cause: More Traits in CAS
Note Mod can be removed without side effects
Symptom: Horses walking on back legs/No option to ride
Cause: One or more mod by LittleMsSam, possibly all mods that change walkstyle
Note. Mod can be removed without side effects
Symptom: Sims aren't able to ride their horses
Cause: LittleMsSam_pregnancyOverhauls, Bigger than EA belly, No huge belly, No pregnancy walk style, probably many other mods
Note. Mod can be removed without side effects
Symptom: Sims aren't able to ride their horses
Cause: LittleMsSam_pregnancyOverhauls, Bigger than EA belly, No huge belly, No pregnancy walk style, probably many other mods
Note. Mod can be removed without side effects
Symptom: Horses Don't Appear in Relationship Panel
Cause: Neia - No More Relationship Culling
Note. Mod can be removed without side effects
Main Menu/World Map/User Interface (UI)
Symptom: Blank Icons in the UI, overall UI glitching and looking awful. Can extend to main menu and the gallery showing wwwwwwwwww instead of text.
Cause: Little Pancakes' Color Slider mod, UI Cheat, BetterBuildBuy, Other mods that change the UI
Note. Mods can be removed without side effects.
Symptom: World Map has overlying text
Cause: UI Cheat, BetterBuildBuy, Other mods that change the UI
Note. Mods can be removed without side effects.
Symptom: When trying to load the new world, only a white screen is shown
Cause: T.O.O.L
Note: Mods can be removed without side effects.
CAS
Symptom: All color options are broken in CAS. Color does not change-.
Cause: More Columns In CAS, possibly other Mods that change the UI in CAS
Note: Mods can be removed without side effects.
Symptom: X on accessory is missing in CAS
Cause: More Columns in CAS
Note: Mods can be removed without side effects.
Symptom:Mouse Cursor has weird icons
Cause: CAS Mod
Note: Mods can be removed without side effects.
Symptom: Male Sims are invisible
Cause: Various sliders
Note: Mods can be removed without side effects.
Symptom:Food Stall/Festival vendors Sells Produce only
Cause: Custom Food stalls, playbable NPC jobs
Note: Possible permanent corruption if you load a save with broken food stalls. Make sure to update any food stalls before playing or remove them before updating
Symptom: Permanent Game Loading in Process
Cause: Undetermined
Note: Mods can be removed without side effects.
Buy/Build
Symptom: All doors are missing/Script error when placing new ones
Cause: Adult mods by Basemental
Note: If you saved your game with the doors gone, they won't come back by remove the mod. You will need to place them again. The script error should not occur.
Symptom: When switching to build/buy, there's no GUI
Cause: UI Cheat extension, ColorSlidersUI, possibly other UI mods
Note: Mods can be removed without side effects., If you have this issue and you do not run any mods/play on console, please use this thread instead: Sims 4 unable to build/ use live mode
Symptom: When trying to place a bed (cc or not) it gets deleted
Cause: CC Beds
Note: Mods can be removed without side effects.,
Symptom: When I try to filter stuff in buy/build it shows everything
Cause: Better BuildBuy or Wrongly uninstalled Better Buy/Build. Turn off organised debug before deleting the mod.
Note: Not sure what you need to do if you didn't do it. Probably wait till the mod got updated.
Live Mode
Symptom: Sims will not eat. They just drop the food to the floor
Cause: Usually custom content objects
Note: If EA adds an new interaction to an object, all CC that is cloned from that object needs updating. Placed CC can cause this. Currently the main issues are CC Beds and Phone mods. Mods can be removed without side effects.
Symptom:Sims reset when doing homework
Cause: Usually custom content objects. Currently the main issues are CC Beds and Phone mods
Note: If EA adds an new interaction to an object, all CC that is cloned from that object needs updating. Placed CC can cause this. Currently the main issues are CC Beds and Phone mods. Mods can be removed without side effects.
Symptom:Clicking on Beds doesn't offer sleep option
Cause: Bed cuddle mod, possibly other mods that change something about beds.
Note: Mods can be removed without side effects.
Symptom: Toddlers can't take bath
Cause: Child bathtub highchair
Note: Mods can be removed without side effects.
Symptom: Sims don't do anything, don't react to orders
Cause: Several.
Note: Mods can be removed without side effects.
Symptom: Sims have no faces/Just Teeth visible
Cause: Usually custom Eyelashes or similar
Note. Mods can be removed without side effects.
Error Codes
Symptom On loading a lot, the game returns to the world and the message: Game failed to load, please try reloading appears
Cause: The cause of this issue varies greatly. The Error Code you're getting is important. Usually this is either a game bug or cause by one of the big script mods.
Link: None, please create your own thread, posting a screenshot of the error.
Note. Please always test without any mods before making a thread.
Compiled List of Known Game Bugs
For the main list, see this thread: [READ FIRST] Compiled list of reported Issues
I found a new issue I cant solve? For some reason when I exit out of pop ups or when the popups dont show up my game works then freezes forever, Like, I know it's not a cache issue or a sims 4 folder issue. It has to do with like a mod in specific but because I have like 6000 mods I dont know which. I didn't download any new ones either. The mouse in game still works, just everything else is frozen
