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Pick-a-boo_doo
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
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Ownership disappears from objects after "Move Household".

Sorry if similar content has already been posted. I couldn't find it.

Product: The Sims 4
Platform: PC(Win10,EA app)
Which language are you playing the game in?: English
How often does the bug occur?: Not sure
What is your current game version number?: 1.103.250.1020
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed?: Currently active owned DLCs: All owned Kits and SPs excluding Vintage Glamour, Bowling Night, Laundry Day and Paranormal
(Owned DLCs:
EP: All excluding Hight School Years, Growing Together and For Rent
GP: All excluding Journey To Batuu
SP: Spooky, Backyard, Vintage Glamour, Bowling Night, Toddler, Landry Day, My First Pet, Moschino, Tiny Living, Paranormal
Kit: Industrial Loft, Desert Luxe. Pastel Pop, Greenhouse Haven, Basement Treasures, Book Nook, Modern Luxe)
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves?: Select your Sim's World using the normal procedure.
・Purchase refrigerators, potted plants, lamps, musical instruments, that can be placed in your Sim's inventory, canvases from Build Mode.
・Frog, get My Sims Trophy
Once you have the above objects, check that each object is usable.
・Check if items other than refrigerators and treasure chests can be placed in Sim's inventory.
・For refrigerators and treasure chests, check if items can be moved from Sim's inventory to each object.
Once you have confirmed that you can move Irem between each object and your Sim's inventory, select "Move Household" from your phone to move it to another Lot.
(Put food in Sim's inventory for confirmation after moving)
Place objects from household inventory onto plot grounds in new Lot.
Try moving food from Sim's inventory to the refrigerator.
For other objects, check whether the option "put to inventory" is available.
What happens when the bug occurs?: Ownership disappears from objects after "Move Household".
What do you expect to see?: Object ownership is maintained even after moving.
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods?; Never used
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system?: After 2023/Dec/05 update

supplementary explanation:
Before moving my Sim, I saved and moved Towny into the empty house from World Management.
In that case, I used "freerealestate".
Then, I closed the game, restarted it, and moved my Sim.
I thought the "freerealestate" cheat would be disabled after loading, but am I wrong?
I don't know if there is another cause, or if it is a bug.
Please let me know if there is any solution to this problem.

  • luthienrising's avatar
    luthienrising
    2 years ago

    @Pick-a-boo_doo Make a new report. If Crin can find an earlier one, she'll move it 🙂 Be super detailed! And copy your save to your desktop in case it's asked for.

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  • @Pick-a-boo_doo I asked around, as I haven't seen this as a mod-related issue or run into it itself. Turns out that's because I tend not to use inventory a lot on moving (and because it's a bug that doesn't happen every time). 

    What's I'm told is that moving via Split Households in Manage Households or via move/evict in Manage Worlds is less likely to cause this issue, and that after you have the issue, your option for getting objects out is multisell. 

    You might end up wanting to load an earlier version of your save and change how you make the move happen. 

  • Pick-a-boo_doo's avatar
    Pick-a-boo_doo
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    @luthienrising
    Hi there
    Thank you for your reply.
    First of all, I would like to say that I am posting via translation, so I apologize if I am not able to convey the message correctly or if I am unable to understand the content of the reply.

    As you say, I have seen similar issues posted about household separation and MOD-related issues. But neither applies to me.

    The data that first encountered the problem was the data that started before the most recent update.
    This problem did not occur before the update.
    After posting here, I performed a factory reset, repaired the game, and started checking with new data.
    I thought that using arguments to limit DLC might be the cause, so I started the game with all the DLC I owned available.
    I created a new Sim and moved it to Streamlet Single.
    I have place some items that can be moved directly to the Sim's inventory in Live Mode. I did "Move Household" with some of the items in my Sim's inventory.
    After moving to Nookstone, I took out the refrigerator, bookshelf, lamp, My Sims Trophy, frog, and canvas from the household inventory.
    Ownership of everything had disappeared, and it was no longer possible to purchase books from the bookshelf or store food in the refrigerator.
    Items that were in the Sim's inventory remain owned even if they are placed in a new lot.
    Does this problem occur with your data?
    Does anyone else have this problem?
    No matter what I do, this problem keeps happening, so I can't play anymore.
    Even if you replace a new item, you will lose ownership of the item the next time you move again. I already have checked that...
    I can no longer make my Sim move.

  • luthienrising's avatar
    luthienrising
    Hero+
    2 years ago

    Hi @Pick-a-boo_doo This is indeed a game bug, I'm told -- and not a new one! You may be able to find a report in Bug Reports . If you use Manage Worlds to move a household, do you have the same problem? That might be a way to avoid it. 

  • Pick-a-boo_doo's avatar
    Pick-a-boo_doo
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @luthienrising
    Sorry I couldn't read it correctly.
    I just tried moving the household from World Management.
    after that,
    ・In Live Mode, place items from household inventory on the premises.
    ・Place items from world management
    I tried the above two patterns, but the ownership rights disappeared in both cases.
    Should this be integrated into a bug report somewhere?
    Or should I make a new report?
  • luthienrising's avatar
    luthienrising
    Hero+
    2 years ago

    @Pick-a-boo_doo Make a new report. If Crin can find an earlier one, she'll move it 🙂 Be super detailed! And copy your save to your desktop in case it's asked for.

  • Pick-a-boo_doo's avatar
    Pick-a-boo_doo
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @luthienrising
    Hi there, thank you for all your help.
    Since there was a new update, I created a report testing the latest version and posted it to the bug report board.
    It's a duplicate of this thread, but I'll leave it up to you to decide whether to delete this thread or not.
    (I think it was designed so that the poster could not delete a thread that had a reply.)
    Thanks again.
  • luthienrising's avatar
    luthienrising
    Hero+
    2 years ago

    Thanks @Pick-a-boo_doo ! I know it's more fun to play than to help test (well, for most people :D ), but some kinds of bugs just would never get solved without players like you putting the time in!

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