Re: BUG: Better Exceptions UI Exception Report can't find broken mod

@LindyIris10 Correct, CurseForge will only manage the mods you had downloaded through its mod manager.

In terms of being unable to edit, do you mean you cannot edit the Sims themselves or their household? If you mean you cannot edit the Sims themselves, (such as their traits, (shown below)), unlocking the option to edit that is very easy.

To unlock full CAS edit mode:

1) Press Ctrl + Shift + C (this will bring up the cheat console)

2) Type "testingcheats true", (without the quotes)

3) Now type "cas.fulleditmode", (again, without the quotes)

4) Hold shift and then click on a Sim, (it can be any Sim)

5) Look for the option bubble that says "Edit in CAS"

After you do that, you'll be taken to the CAS edit menu, where you'll be able to edit any of the Sims in the current household / lot. This full edit mode will allow you to change anything about the Sim as if you were creating the Sim for the first time. (I'm assuming you have empty trait slots, which is why I'm mentioning this).

If its a lot that's unable to be edited, you could try enabling the free building mode cheat, which would be "bb.enablefreebuild" into the cheat console.

When you're done using the cheats, you can just press Ctrl + Shift + C again to close the cheat console. (You don't have to turn off "testingcheats" or anything else. The game seems to do that on its own when the game starts up the next time).

Actually, when I click on the edit button to open CAS the loading screen opens a chrome page with be exceptions and the game doesn't load. It goes like this forever (I stayed waiting for about 1 hour and half) and I can't even close the game with alt+f4

Hello again, I tried to delete the cache file, I did a backup of all of my sims save files, but in the mean time I found a file from MCC last exception, which reports a problem with one of the sims that is in the broken household, you can find it in the photos and also the full error callstack (I made multiple replies because I can't upload more than 3 photos per reply). If you find anything strange please tell me because I'm a little tired after updating mods for an entire week and still not finding the problem with the household. Also this morning I updated my game so now it's on 08/08's patch. 

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@LindyIris10 First off, you could of just uploaded the exception file instead, but no worries.

Secondly, the error I see says, "'NoneType' object has no attribute 'commodity_flags'", then it reffers to "CategoryID: script_object:1302"

In the full stack error, it says:

File 'T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\components\__init__.py', line 202, in __getattr__ [ self : Alexei Sokolov, attr : commodity_flags]

File 'T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\script_object.py', line 1302, in update_commodity_flags [ cls : <class 'sims4.tuning.instances.object_sim'>]

File 'T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\script_object.py', line 1302, in <genexpr> [ .0 : <tuple_iterator object at 0x00007FF467038B10>, flag : <class 'sims4.tuning.instances.staticCommodity_Nanny_FeedBaby'>]

Whatever mod you have that adds a nanny seems to be the issue. You can try removing the mod and seeing if the Sims can be edited, (or see if the mod has an update).

A breakdown of the error you're having, is the "update_commodity_flags" is throwing an error in one of the mod's classes. As a result of this error, it also throws the second error in another class. This class is the "Nanny_FeedBaby".

In other words, the Sim, "Alexei Sokolov", has nothing set for their "commodity flags" attribute. This is basically a null error, where the mod isn't able to update the commodity flags for the Sim, as it doesn't exist for them. Judging by the mention of a Nanny commondity, I'm guessing that Alexei is the household's Nanny.

Ok so in this household Alexei Sokolov is the father of one of the two kids. But he adopted the other one that isn't his. I don't remember putting any kind of nanny mods, but I can list a few that I have installed that involve services/family/adoption:

Advanced Infant Care by Grumpy

Foster Family by LittleMsSam

Family Life by jellypawss

Lumpinou's RPO (all files except M13)

Zero Cottage's Deliveries

If you know any other mods that could be confliting I can list all of them

Amélie Sokolov is the mother, while Alexei is her husband. First she had a child (Edward, currently a toddler) with another man and then she had a child with Alexei (Davis, an infant). When the first child was born, I clicked on him so that Alexei was considered his ''cure assistant'' (I'm italian I don't know how this translates correctly into English). I will try to delete the Family Life mod, since it's a lot the creator updated it, and secondly I will try to reset them. 

Don't worry, I read the instructions of the article you sent me earlier. I'm currently opening the gameplay.

YESS IT WORKS! Thank you so much for all of the work you've done this days, I couldn't do it in a million years without your help. Now I still get a better exception tab on google because it's still searching for that broken trait mod, but now I think after all of this the Family Life wasn't working and was causing the exception. Later when it finishes (it will take at least 10 min I think) I will inform you, but the important thing is that now CAS for this household works.

Ok if I find it I could use this command. However it will take a while to find it because recently my File explorer has decided to not search for files with specific names (when I type ''trait'' or only the first letters it doesn't find anything haha).

Apparently everything works now, except for the Better Exceptions Chrome tab still openining and some of the outfits not showing and the bugged names (photos). Also the time seems to freeze and my Sims can't interact with other sims or objects. 

@LindyIris10  Better Exceptions is honestly a mod that I've used and then uninstalled because it did the same thing for me when it kept detecting issues. However, if its still telling you there's an issue, then one of your other mods may still be glitching out.

As for some outfits not showing, I'm not sure what's suppose to show up, but if the issue is with the child, it might be due to those outfits not being tagged with "Maschile", (Masculin) and/or "Clima Freddo", (Cold Weather). But, if its the pants the child is wearing, (where one pants leg is white), it might not be showing correctly due to the pants overriding another piece of clothing. If its with the adult Sim, I don't know what they're suppose to be wearing, so to me, nothing is missing.

As for the bugged names, I see for the child and the first Sim selected, CAS is referring to them both as "Davis Sokolov". When you're in the actual household, do both Sims have the same name when you hover over them or over their icons in the bottom left of the screen? If they do, try changing their names back to how they should be. (This will require you to turn on the testing cheats command and then to use the full edit CAS command). If their names are different, (and correct), then its most likely a mod causing the issue.

Lastly, the time. When the game is paused, as you know the Sims aren't moving, time isn't moving, everything is at a standstill. From what it sounds like, the game is "paused", but the Sims aren't affected by the pause, only the objects they can interact with. This sounds like an issue with a mod. You could try following these steps: https://answers.ea.com/t5/PC/Game-stuck-in-pause/m-p/9282488/highlight/true#M182580 you can also try repairing the game files. (It might start resuming if you click on the speed of time buttons a few times).

If the issue is only happening with the one household and not any other, then its definitely a mod causing the issue. Its possible that something in the household, (might be a Sim or a piece of furniture), is throwing an error. I've had my game pause like that before when a mod had a bugged out piece of furniture and it didn't let me resume the game until the mod was gone.

Check around your sim's house. Is anything missing, not properly textured, or otherwise not correct? If there is anything like that, then it should be the associated mod. Also read the error log generated by Better Exceptions, is there anything in the error log pointing to what may be causing the issue? Based on the previous log reports it generated, I think its one of the mods. (It may be the mod that adds more to the time menu. I see you have a season icon, temps, month, etc).

Hi there, the problem is still here. Everything works on every other household (build, live and cas mode), except for this one. Should I send you another be exceptions report? or something like that? (in meanwhile I re-added some files that you can find in the photo, but apparently even if the creators said that these mods work, I think they're conflicting with the broken one)

Here I put every exceptions file I could find.

 I only made a separate folder to show you the mods that I think were conflicting with traits. Tomorrow I will try to move out the household, I hope that works

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@LindyIris10  First off, the first image says there's a bad tuning in the mod "Realistic Teens", but then it says to check the broken mods section, to which the mod "WhoIsKnocking" is marked as an invalid script.

Basically, "Realistic Teens" seems to have just errored out because you had generated the Better Exceptions report. The issue lies with the "WhoIsKnocking" script.

You need to move the script directly into the mods folder, meaning:

The Sims 4 \ Mods \ <Here>

You currently have it:

The Sims 4 \ Mods \ Another Folder \ <Here>

Lastly, the "Patch Day Results", this is typically an overview of mods that are outdated. It doesn't mean that they're broken, but it could be what's causing issues.

The example it gives explains it best:

"Let's say you filled out a form asking for your first and last name. Later we updated it to require your birth date. When we ask for your name, it will work, but when we ask for your birth date, it wouldn't work."

In other words, the mods listed, (such as "Khals Carryup Animation Interaction"), were made for a previous game version. They'll still "work", but certain parts of it can cause issues.

Recommended:

1) Remove "Realistic Teens" or update the mod.

2) Moving the "WhoIsKnocking" script file directly into the mod's folder. (It cannot be in a folder within the mod's folder, it must be directly after the mod's folder).

3) Launch the game and see if the error is still there.

4) If the error still occurs, check all the mods that were flagged in the "Patch Day Results" for any updates.

5) If any of the mods listed in the "Patch Day Results" don't have any updates, you should remove those mods. (You could also wait for an update to these mods, but keep in mind that developing mods do take time and the developers of these mods may be very busy).

These mods are only recommended as a starting point by Better Exceptions, because they could very well still be working, its just that they weren't developed for the current version of the game. It is possible that some or none of these mods would need to be removed, its just a "better safe than sorry" type of thing.

Considering other households work just fine, its most likely just a bug that occured in the broken household when you had loaded it up on the latest version prior to updating any mods. These things tend to happen, and that's also why the game will warn you after each update and would disable mods and their scripts automatically.