If we do have a Sims 5, should they add a height adjuster in the base game (or in a pack)?

Its not necessary for me and seems like itd be buggy.

"StrawberryYogurt;c-17742679" wrote:
Its not necessary for me and seems like itd be buggy.

I agree that it would be problematic, especially for "clothing" the Sims. People don't realize that so many of the things like "height sliders" have far more implication for how their computers run than something like sliders for colors. And even those can really add to the computer's work load, which is part of why they left out the Create a Style that many of us adored from TS3.

As it is, there are a number of people I've seen posting in the help section complaining about the lag in *this* game since they added platforms. For some it has become unplayable. And to anyone who would say "we shouldn't be held up by those who have older machines", EA *can't* think like that or they can't expand the business to give us more of the other things that we all want.

I'd rather see development time be spent on Sims' personalities and interactions than a height slider.

"KatAnubis;c-17742783" wrote:

"StrawberryYogurt;c-17742679" wrote:
Its not necessary for me and seems like itd be buggy.

And to anyone who would say "we shouldn't be held up by those who have older machines", EA *can't* think like that or they can't expand the business to give us more of the other things that we all want.

We're not getting any of the stuff that we want now... case in point, Journey to Achoo. ~gesundheit~ What makes it any different now instead of "pushing the envelope" in development.

I don't agree with dumbing down games to cater to market share. Pushing the envelope in game development is what gets people to jump on the gaming bandwagon.

Height was at interest for me at a time, but then I started thinking about how much it would complicate sim genetics.. so no, No height sliders for me.
The only thing about height for me would be gradual aging for kids and teens.

"teamjen;c-17770302" wrote:

"StrawberryYogurt;c-17742679" wrote:
Its not necessary for me and seems like itd be buggy.

I think I literally agree with most of your opinions on this game ?

Definitely don’t think height sliders are necessary... at all but if we do get them someday cool.

Heres hoping the sims team take our suggestions lol

"Movotti;c-17717347" wrote:

"Onverser;c-17715036" wrote:
A height slider sounds nice on paper, but I just think it's probably more hassle than it's worth. Every single animation would have to work with different height levels, objects would have to be made around it, etc etc. There'd be so many bugs with it aswell. It'd just be a lot of work all round and it'd probably mean packs have even less content as animations would take twice as long so it's a no for me.

Thats the way I see it too.
Too few people understand the extra work the variations are likely to add to the production of the game.

For those who don't get it, here's a simplification of what we're talking about.
With adults (teens and elders) having just one height, the interaction for something as simple as a hug will have, just for the adults:

Adult - Adult
Adult - Child
Adult - Toddler


With short, medium and tall height variations just for adults that becomes:

S Adult - S Adult
S Adult - M Adult
S Adult - T Adult
S Adult - Child
S Adult - Toddler

M Adult - S Adult
M Adult - M Adult
M Adult - T Adult
M Adult - Child
M Adult - Toddler

T Adult - S Adult
T Adult - M Adult
T Adult - T Adult
T Adult - Child
T Adult - Toddler


It's pretty clear why TS4 has the teens the same height as the adults and elders.
Some people might think it's because the developers are lazy, but others can see it's because repeats of the animations for different heights would come at the cost of other content.

True, but that would be mostly for hugs though...

That said, I think I agree that height sliders might not be necessary, but I would prefer if teens were a little bit shorter, I have always felt that teens look so stretched out in the sims 4.

I don't need height sliders, but I definitely want shorter teens. I also would love it if females were slightly shorter than males. I know as a general rule in RL women are anywhere from very much shorter to just a wee bit shorter than most men. (I'm really short in RL so pretty much everybody from mid-teens on up are typically taller than me).

I also don't buy the excuse of budget, they had shorter teens in TS2 and TS3 both, why would the budget be so much smaller now? That is the one thing that has always driven me nuts about TS4, but they have a small budget, they can't do this or that. WHYYYYYY??? Why is TS4's budget so ridiculously small? Does EA not realize that because of the budget they alloted to the devs for TS2 and TS3 which made those games so full of animations and interactions and gameplay ... that, that is the reason they've been so successful for all these years? Cutting the budget just provides a very disappointing and lacking game which turns into unsatisfied, unhappy and demanding people who are never pleased. If they can continue on this miserly business model they will lose fans to any new game they produce.

And if they can weight paint clothing meshes to morph when being pushed and pulled in every direction, they certainly can weight paint mesh clothing to morph when put on a shorter teen.

A height slider feature can and should be implemented as long as all the right kind of procedural animation techniques are used. This will need to be planned immediately at the start of development and can only be part of base game. Adding it to a pack somewhere along the line does not make sense. That’s not how it works.

If they didn’t already plan a main feature like this, it won’t be part of the sims 5. If sims 5 has been in development for some time already, the potential for height sliders either exist in their prototypes as we speak, or will never exist for the new Sims title. It’s part of the core of a game. Once the code is properly set up at the dawn of development, adding animations should be no problem. It just takes some additional programming at the start.

I personally “need” height sliders and I’m currently using a mod for that. All of my main male sims are taller than the average sim. When they smooch with their lady friend I just look the other way. It’s private anyway. Let them do their thing. ?

"valkyrieplays;c-17718214" wrote:
i would definitely like more height variety. i could imagine them maybe having some preset heights (rather than on a slider), so it's easier to figure out animations?

Yeah, I agree with this. They wouldn't have to do many different heights either. It would still be a little more variety than we have now.

I'm not that fussed to be honest, but if it came it would be a nice little addition.