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What Music Are You Listening To Right Now?
This was a long running thread in the Off Topic section of the old Vanilla forums. Many of us were introduced to so many new artists we might never have found otherwise. We were reminded of old favorites we had forgotten too. Music moves the world, this thread is a place to celebrate the most universal art form. EDM, Blues, Punk, Metal, Hip Hop, Soul, if it moves you share it here. Don't You Worry Child - Swedish House Mafia
KRAFTON's inZOI Life Simulation Game vs. Sims 5 (Rene)
Yet another life simulation game in the works. Take a look. Krafton is a South Korean video game publisher behind popular games such as PUBG and Subnautica. They engaged with several Sims content creators to get exclusive access to their new game, inZOI, which has only been in development for 1 year (!!). What do you think? I was immediately struck by the realism of the graphics. Very different from the stylized Sims art. The world is gorgeous. FAQs When will the game come out? The development team is working towards a release date of 'late 2024' What engine was used to build the game? Unreal Engine 5 What platforms will the game be on? It will initially be released on PC and is later expected to be on consoles like the PS5 and Xbox How much will the game cost? Will there be expansion packs? The monetization model is currently undecided, including the plan for expansion packs and DLCs Will the game be multiplayer?* They are currently working on various multiplayer features, such as the ability to meet up with other online players or invite them over to your home *the game is still in development so all answers are subject to change! IGN Gameplay Video
Happy International Trans Day of Visibility + 28th anniversary of Teletubbies
Happy International Trans of Visibility Day to all the trans and non-binary simmers out there! 🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️ Happy 28th anniversary of the Teletubbies to every simmers who are fan of Teletubbies since they were little! 💜💚💛❤️ We got Misty and Kendra that are the only two trans women. And we have four colorful Teletubby sims celebrating the British kids show that first aired back in 1997.
The Sims Medieval Requires Permission for Gameplay
Hi. My game keeps crashing after I press play for The Sims Medieval: I press ok, and then brings me to the app. I'm having problems trying to determine what to do under the properties tab when I right click on The Sims Medieval for Administrator permissions: Can someone help me solve this issue. Thank you!
The Sims 5 Ideas
CAS System Bring DeepSeek-like AI system into the game, make Sims smarter. Make it intelligently create Sims through facial and voiceprint recognition. Make it a discontinuous voice slider (mid-value can be taken). Cancel Simlish and make it a variety of real languages, such as Cantonese, Japanese, Korean, etc. Add more interpersonal titles in family tree, such as uncle, aunt, cousin, father-in-law, brother-in-law, granddaughter-in-law, etc. Aging System Make it eight life stages: baby stage lasts 7 days (newborn stage lasts 1 day, infant stage lasts 2 days, toddler stage lasts 4 days), child stage lasts 7 days, teen stage lasts 14 days, young adult stage lasts 28 days, adult stage lasts 28 days, elder stage lasts 28 days. It is a total of 112 days. Each stage has at most three Zodiac Traits. The baby stage has only one Acquired Trait, the child stage has two Acquired Traits, the other stages have three Acquired Traits. Trait System Make it two types of traits: Zodiac Traits and Acquired Traits. The Zodiac Traits can be further divided into three parts, please refer to The Sims 4 Zodiac Traits. Make it a series of The Sims 2 style systems, such as primary and secondary aspirations, slot machine style wants and fears with the meter, good and bad memories, etc. Make each memory have a detailed date. Society System Make it three stages of society: Present Society, Future Society, Ancient Society. Make a world map with displaying year and month, make one year be 28 days, make one month be 2 days and 8 hours. After every 112 days, the game changes the stage of current society automatically and cycles infinitely. Make six continents in the world map. For Ancient Society, make nine countries in Asia, they're Jin (晉) in the northwest, Yan (燕) in the north, Ancient Korea in the northeast, Qin (秦) in the west, Zhou (周) in the middle, Qi (齊) in the east, Ancient Vietnam in the southwest, Chu (楚) in the south, and Ancient Japan in the southeast. Weather System Make more types of wind: Level 0 is for no wind, Level 1 for gentle wind, Level 2 for strong wind, Level 3 for typhoon. Make petals fall in spring and leaves in autumn, like rain and snow. Make it an open world, or not. If it is an open world, make it not The Truman Show. Action System Make Sims have more actions, such as dressing and undressing; opening doors and windows and closing them; taking out dishes, mugs, pans and condiment bottles from cupboards, toothbrushes from cups, umbrellas from umbrella racks, clothes and socks from wardrobes, shoes from shoe cabinet, and putting back them, etc. Sims can take pillows and sheets out of the closet and put them on the ground to sleep and bring them back to the closet, and they can wash and dry them. Cats and birds can walk and sleep on walls. Driving System Players can drive vehicles. Driver Sims can pick up and drop off other Sims. Make vehicles of different capacities accommodate different numbers of Sims. Make traffic accidents allowed. Give Sims the opportunity to fall and be injured from a height. Make ambulances, paramedics, wheelchairs and disabled Sims. Make sick Sims go to hospitals. If it is an infectious disease, Sims can infect each other. Doctor Sims can treat and perform surgeries. Make four types of blood type traits for Sims, or not. Justice System Give Sims and events the opportunity to add or change the Acquired Traits of other Sims. Make Sims get skill points by reading, having classes and doing homeworks, etc. Make 1st language and maths classes compulsory in kindergartens, make 1st language, 2nd language and maths classes compulsory in primary and middle schools, make 3rd language and other courses optional in universities except major. Make the number of languages which Sims speak as many as the number of languages supported by The Sims 5. Make 1st language be English. Make 2nd language and 3rd language selectable, such as Cantonese, Japanese, Korean, etc. Sims who can speak foreign languages can communicate with foreign Sims. Sims can sue other Sims. Build System Add half-tile walls and platforms, walls and platforms with a height of 0.125 times, walls and platforms hanging down from the ceiling, buildable prominent window sills, vertical sloping walls and platforms (22.5 degree per rotation), rain gutters, more styles of single-tile sliding doors and functions of rotating objects horizontally and vertically in a discontinuous manner (22.5 degree per rotation). Other Systems Add new careers for real estate agents and home design personnels. Add Italian minimalist style, etc. Load bearing walls can be removed during decoration. Add folding doors. Allow doors, windows, beds, tables, sofas, cabinets, TVs, refrigerators, ovens, washing machines, etc. to be freely adjusted in size. Add ceiling mounted air conditioners and split air conditioners. Companies can go public. The stock market can be long or short. Buying a second-hand house and renovating it can be done with a loan. Bring sun, Mercury, Venus, earth, moon, Mars, Callisto, Ganymede, Europa, Io, Jupiter, Saturn, Titan, Uranus, Neptune and Triton, the 16 bigger ones, into the game (Pluto as a candidate or hidden one). 0 Rabbit Holes Don't make any rabbit holes, such as tree houses, public toilets, tramcars, primary schools and all jobs. Make the interiors of subways, ships, planes, subway stations, seaports and airports visible. Make it at least three classrooms in kindergartens, primary schools, middle schools and universities; the school area can be built as freely as other areas. Add new careers for manga artists, voice actors and publishing houses. Make weekly magazines and manga tankobons published; TV dramas, movies, cartoons, MTVs and commercials can be filmed and shown; games can be developed and sold; related consoles and arcades can be played. Objects and Houses Add mahjong tables. Add cabinets in which there are wooden boards engraved with the names of deceased ancestors, foods, drinks, a metal bowl, a candlestick, an incense burner, etc. Sims can offer foods and drinks, light the candle, burn some incense and knock on the metal bowl for their deceased ancestors. Sims can put the wooden boards, foods and drinks in the cabinets or take off them or change them. Add more styles of wind bells, usable telephones, usable hand fans and desk fans. Allow more kinds of objects, like TVs, to be placed on various tables and floors. Make acuum cleaners, brooms, dustpans, mops, buckets, napkins, feather dusters, washing machines and drying racks in the base game. Make houses and clothes more and more dirty after some time even without buying acuum cleaners and washing machines. Make the appearance of a house that is not inhabited for a long time become older and older. Others Except premade households, don't make it automatically generate citizens or NPCs, even if NPC may be not enough. Canceling the cheat system makes the game more fun. Make it The Sims Home Edition for players who don't need cheats and The Sims Professional Edition for players who do need cheats. Cancel the function of easily transferring funds and family members between families. Make players cannot switch family members easily after entering a household. Quit asking players, make us must go to work and school personally with the currently controlled Sim. Cancel the outlines around Sims and objects when the mouse pointer points to them. Make it no longer cause mutual penetration and superposition between Sims. In life mode, expand the first person perspective based on the room size as soon as we enter a room and cancel the wall cutting, while build mode is not affected by this. Don't make any unusable decorations, make smart-phones and calendars be usable objects. Make bookshelves and refrigerators empty to place books and foods one by one. Give Sims the opportunity to have dreams when they fall asleep. Sims can hold funerals. Don't make Sims age continuously in a short period of time by blowing candles on their birthday cakes. For the previous post, please refer to here.
questions regarding a slur in the sims 1 and 2
hello, this post is more aimed at the actual sims team, but i want to confirm something as you have started reselling the sims 1 and 2 for modern devices. In both of these games, they have the g word ( a word used against roma people). Has this been removed from the games before them being republished?
Writers' Lounge - For All Games!
My friend @friendsfan367 suggested, " i think it would be cool to have like a writer lounge where new writers like me could chat with old writers like you. opps i meant experinced." So, here we have it! The Writers' Lounge, where new writers can chat with old writers like me! This is a place to talk about all aspects of your writing! Every Simming and writing question is welcome, and everyone is invited to chime in with writerly suggestions, responses, jokes, feedback, gripes, comments, and conundrums. Even though we're located in the Sims 4 area, writers of stories involving all Sims games are welcome! We have people who write stories using Sims 2, Sims 3, and Sims 4 games--and everyone is appreciated and included! You'll find that we're really welcoming, and we're really cool, and this thread is totally awesome. And we have a few common sense guidelines to help keep it that way. (We've learned from experience! :wink: ) Treat each other with kindness, acceptance, appreciation, and respect. Follow the EA Forum Guidelines. Remember that this is a public forum, meaning that anybody anywhere with Internet access can read what you write. If you're a youngster, don't write anything you wouldn't want your mom to read. If you're an adult, don't write anything you wouldn't want your kid or niece or nephew to read. Please don't feel bad if we pop in for gentle reminders if things get really OT or if we start to veer from the forum guidelines. We still love you! I'll keep the coffee and tea pots full--you bring your favorite mug, and let's kick back and chat about writing! Daily Conversations Join us for daily conversations! We've got themed conversations Monday - Sunday. Of course, you can talk about other things, too! But if you're looking for a specific topic, swing by and join us! https://ts4fanfic.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/sunday22.png https://ts4fanfic.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/monday.png https://ts4fanfic.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/tuesday.png https://ts4fanfic.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/wednesday.png https://ts4fanfic.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/thursday.png https://ts4fanfic.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/friday.png https://ts4fanfic.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/saturday.png Writer/Reader Community Threads You might also enjoy these threads: Freezer Bunny Book Club | Short Story Writing Challenges How Do I Get Started Writing? If you have questions about writing SimLit, please see the following guide, written and compiled by @JulyVee94. A Quick Guide to SimLit Directory of Active Members Here's a listing of the blogs/threads of the regulars here. If you'd like to have your blog or thread listed here, please let @friendsfan367 or me (CathyTea) know. I'm kinda busy, so it might take me a little while to get you listed, but I definitely will list your story here, if you request it! And... Happy Reading! :smiley: Note: Some of these stories may contain adult subject matter. Please read at your discretion. Acarb90 - Metro - A City Story | Thirty: Looking to the future... 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Februay 20th - Sourocha March 5th - Munterbacon March 12th - Swcheppes March 21st - ra3rei March 22nd - aroseinbloom April 17th - Pinmat135 April 18th - TheAemaSimming April 19th - InfraGreen April 23rd - Maladi777 April 26th - rednenemon May 12th - Pegasus143 May 19th -Karilan June 20th - madamelee June 27th - Bugsie2016 June 29th - SimsLover163 July 3rd - ilovebunnys65 July 7th - kurdaneva July 23rd - CathyTea July 26th - Shadami August 15th - For_Eorzea August 17th - friendsfan367 August 23rd - ny275 August 29th - Lisabee2 September 1 - PitlordMaggie September 14th - Shadyboop September 16th - Pronterus and divanthesimmer September 19th - lovesstorms September 28th - VanityHigh Sept 29th - Anua92 October 2nd - SilverDaybreak October 25th - DebraF63 October 26th - Meggles November 4th - LegacySims2017 November 10th - Simscognito November 26th - Faoiltearna November 29th - SimTresa December 9th - AdamsEve1231 December 15th - LyricSimz15 December 17th - StoriedStorm, MedleyMisty, and Acarb90 December 22nd - nerdfashion December 29th - BlackUndecimberThe Sims 5 Zodiac Traits
Make it Zodiac Traits and Acquired Traits. The followings specifically refer to Zodiac Traits. For The 48 Periods, please refer to Personology (by Gary Goldschneider). The 48-Traits Edition Make it three groups of traits: Sun Traits, Moon Traits, Rising Traits. There are the same 48 traits in all of the groups. Make the season be 7 days and the moon phase cycle be 8 days, just like in The Sims 4. Make each Sun Trait advance once every 14 hours, each Moon Trait advance once every 4 hours, each Rising Trait advance once every 30 minutes in the time system. When a Sim is born, he or she could have three different, or two same and one different, or three same traits. If a Sim has three same traits, then this type of trait of him or her is strong, and so on. Astrologers can give Sims good blind dates or bad ones. There are three sets of 48 types of actions for Sims. The first set is for Sims who have three different traits, and they have three types of actions from this set according to what traits they have. The actions in the first set are weak. The second set is for Sims who have two same and one different traits, and they have two types of actions from this and the first set according to what traits they have. The actions in the second set are average. The third set is for Sims who have three same traits, and they have only one type of action from this set according to what traits they have. The actions in the third set are strong. 01. Pis-Ari Cusp Rebirth 02. Ari I. Child 03. Ari II. Star 04. Ari III. Pioneer 05. Ari-Tau Cusp Power 06. Tau I. Manifestation 07. Tau II. Teacher 08. Tau III. Natural 09. Tau-Gem Cusp Energy 10. Gem I. Freedom 11. Gem II. New Language 12. Gem III. Seeker 13. Gem-Can Cusp Magic 14. Can I. Empath 15. Can II. Unconventional 16. Can III. Persuader 17. Can-Leo Cusp Oscillation 18. Leo I. Authority 19. Leo II. Balanced Strength 20. Leo III. Leadership 21. Leo-Vir Cusp Exposure 22. Vir I. System Builders 23. Vir II. Enigma 24. Vir III. Literalist 25. Vir-Lib Cusp Beauty 26. Lib I. Perfectionist 27. Lib II. Society 28. Lib III. Theater 29. Lib-Sco Cusp Drama & Criticism 30. Sco I. Intensity 31. Sco II. Depth 32. Sco III. Charm 33. Sco-Sag Cusp Revolution 34. Sag I. Independence 35. Sag II. Originator 36. Sag III. Titan 37. Sag-Cap Cusp Prophecy 38. Cap I. Ruler 39. Cap II. Determination 40. Cap III. Dominance 41. Cap-Aqu Cusp Mystery Imagination 42. Aqu I. Genius 43. Aqu II. Youth & Ease 44. Aqu III. Acceptance 45. Aqu-Pis Cusp Sensitivity 46. Pis I. Spirit 47. Pis II. Loner 48. Pis III. Dancers & Dreamers The 336-Traits Edition Make it two groups of traits: Sun Traits, Moon Traits. There are the same 336 traits in both of the groups. Make the moon phase cycle be also 7 days, just like the season in The Sims 4. Since 28÷336×24=2 and 7÷336×24×60=30, make each Sun Trait advance once every 2 hours, each Moon Trait advance once every 30 minutes in the time system. As for the 336 traits, we can refer to the 366 traits from The Secret Language of BIRTHDAYS by Gary Goldschneider & Joost Elffers, just selecting the traits from the first 28 days of each month. Please choose the better edition which you think. 🙂 Alchemists can change objects into coins or into trash. A small-sized bronze coin is for 1 simoleon, silver coin for 5 simoleons, gold coin for 10 simoleons; a medium-sized bronze coin is for 50 simoleons, silver coin for 100 simoleons, gold coin for 500 simoleons; a large-sized bronze coin is for 1,000 simoleons, silver coin for 5,000 simoleons, gold coin for 10,000 simoleons. Sims can pick up coins from the ground and deposit them in a bank, a piggy bank, and a strong box. When Sims are going to use simoleons in African, European, Asian cities, they must change them into African, European, Asian dollars. The exchange rate fluctuates every day. For the previous post, please refer to here.
Seljaq-Ghazhadid lore, please!
Once upon a time, all my laptop could run was the late Sims Medieval, and the Watcher knows I had an absolute blast. Only thing I disliked about it was the lack of object description (usually so good at providing lore) for its catalog. One thing in particular I would love to get more info/lore on is the "Seljaq-Ghazhadid" word used to describe some vaguely Arab/Persian style objects in the game. Is it a family? A kingdom? Just a style? No one else cares, I'm sure, but I would love to know more if anyone has anything on it, better yet, I'd love to see it incorporated in an upcoming sims 4 pack or kit.
Problem with achivements- sims Medieval
In all my missions I achived platin medal but somehow game does not recognize it so I can't reach new ambition. Also when I tried to play again with different kingdom on the first ambition "fresh start" it does not see buildings- I have 10 but the game shows 0.
The Sims: Beyond the Shore
Hello, My name is Roman, and I would like to share with you a concept for a brand-new game called The Sims: Beyond the Shore, which could take The Sims series in an exciting new direction. Imagine a closed, living island world where every decision made by the player shapes the community, and each arriving Sim brings their own unique story. Players would start on a deserted island, building a society from the ground up while facing natural and social challenges that gradually shape the future of their civilization. This game is envisioned as a standalone title—not merely an expansion of The Sims 4—which allows for a fully autonomous world where no Sim appears randomly, and every relationship and event holds genuine significance. You will find detailed information about this concept, including ideas for expansions and unique gameplay mechanics, in the attached document. I truly believe this project has the potential to captivate existing fans of The Sims while offering a fresh and immersive experience to the simulation genre. I would greatly appreciate your time and any feedback you may have. Sincerely, Roman
The future of the Sims
Reading the blog post is says they were making new games or basically no more one linear game.Meaning I think we're going to have bunch of different sims games for all sorts of players. They might reboot mysims or make better A more complex basegame they might make something like the sims 3 in the future.Legacy Collections: A Message of Gratitude and Consternation
First of all, I want to thank EA for releasing TS1 and TS2, officially upgrading them from abandonware to activeware. The fact that we can get support and fixes for these retro games is exciting. I also want to thank the community managers during this period. The forums have been overloaded with activity and we now have two new subforums for active games requiring attention. In addition, the subforums have been frankly messy and require extra work for cleanup: many duplicate threads are created on the same bug complaints that would have been found using the search feature. That being said, I have several concerns. I'm fortunate enough to have been able to run both TS1 and TS2 on launch day, but there remain a significant number of players who still can't run the game they paid for and are past the refund period. The instability at launch was unacceptable. Second, I'm concerned about understaffed community management for the sheer volume of bug reports. It seems like there's more work for the same number of employees, leading to delays. I hope that's not the case. Finally, I'm noticing the underprioritization of the Sims 2 and Sims 1 subforums, particularly the latter. For example, please see the image below of recent activity from a community manager. Sims 4 bugs tend to get active responses and attention. Sims 2 has received a few recent responses, while Sims 1 has received very little activity. I can hope that more is going on behind the scenes, but I don't know without communication.
