Pros and Cons TS 1/2/3/4

"ClarionOfJoy;c-17313834" wrote:

"JoAnne65;c-17313825" wrote:

"ClarionOfJoy;c-17313642" wrote:

"PlayerSinger2010;c-17308739" wrote:
TS1:

TS3:
Pros: Open world, supernaturals, customization
Cons: University, the LAG, the pudding faces, the dull colors.

I agree about the dull color choices for most of the lots. I always wondered why the lot designers always went with such dull colors when they have the full use of the color palette? When I move my household into a home, one of the first things I change are the colors used in the home to something brighter, more cheerful.

I actually don’t, I love all the worlds for instance, including its colours. In the earlier worlds houses may be decorated a bit dull but I actually think they might have done that due to the misconception everybody would love to jump on it with CASt. Not how it works of course. Later worlds therefore most of the time look fine (interiors).

Besides, if colours in Sims 3 are your issue, eeeeeeeh :grimace:

Yeah, I don't have many complaints about TS3. The dull colors used for the homes is really one of the very few pet peeves I have about the game and even that is very easy and quick to fix. I agree with you that they might have used dull colors to encourage simmers to use CASt more often.

I only commented about the dull colors, because right now I'm feeling too lazy to write out my pros and cons of each iteration. :)

Lol ;) Well, if I try to come up with pros and cons myself:

Sims 1
Pros: charming, lively, funny, sharp
Cons: focus on making your sims survive and being happy, which is really hard so it’s about all you do (well, that’s how it was for me anyway)

Sims 2
Pros: lovely, funny, palpable because of the refined personalities and relationships
Cons: closed off lots, no time continuing, it’s very home centered because of this (at least for me it was)

Sims 3
Pros: open world, CASt, everything seems to be designed for us players to go ahead and make everything our own. It’s my ultimate dreamworld. And there’s so much to do and discover.
Cons: buggy (though that’s ok nowadays, with the mods I have and no more patches or new packs) and... I genuinely don’t know. The EA puddingfaces I guess but I love my own sims so I can live with that.

Sims 4
Pros: smooth and lively animations, CAS is good, some amazing building tools, hats on any hairstyle (ok, found a Sims 3 CON after all!), buying mode is well organized, toddlers are great.
Cons: multitasking that isn’t multitasking at all but just slowing down things, the emotion system that kills their personality (the auras basically, making them all identical), sims not facing each other when talking, rather dull behaviour of sims (the interactions aren’t ever surprising or triggering), the cartoony and rubber art style (not for me). And grinding gameplay (often based on checklists). P.s. forgot one and it’s a real last but not least for me: the tiny neighborhoods and loading screens that completely seperate you from your other sims while (in contrast to Sims 2) time continues, so they just hang there doing nothing. I love being able to control them all at all times, for me that’s essential. And everything is too set in stone. Very little catering the player’s creativity and freedom.

"Faberries;c-17307715" wrote:
Sims 2:
Pros: extremely detailed gameplay, fears and wants, so many things to discover (it took me 15+ years to learn that tvs can fall off the wall), that little penguin who walks around, actual consequences for your sims, memories, slightly darker humor, cutscenes!
Cons: the clothing style is stuck in the 2000’s, building feels awful, a lot of features are broken which requires mods to fix them, and using in-game features can corrupt your game (this one is the worst for me. I love TS2, but the fact that i have to be so careful of what i do to avoid corruption, makes me not wanna play)

Sims 3:
Pros: a lot of different things you can do gameplay wise, the worlds are beautiful, create-a-style was nice, did one of my favorite songs in simlish (1+ from me!)
Cons: the sims looks ugly, open world, probably caused the deaths of at least 3 of my old laptops

Sims 4:
Pros: beautiful worlds and sims, runs great on my current PC even when i have 10+ GB of CC, building feels a lot nicer than the previous games, the gallery is great, i can play for hours without getting bored
Cons: not enough traits and aspirations, some age groups gets neglected in favor of YA (especially female YA’s), there’s no real consequences for most of your sims actions and nothing bad ever happens to them, the lack or NPC’s like firemen, robbers, etc

I vaguely remember a TV falling off the wall in TS2 when I played it as a kid. It scared the plum out of me! I always thought it was a false memory, because I'd never heard of it happening it to anyone else. Even when I downloaded UC, the TVs would stay on the wall. So I guess it is a thing, or, at least a very rare thing. :p

TS1
Pros: It was new and exciting as the first of its kind (nostalgia)
Personality points/interests
The personal biographies for the sims
Angry sims were hilarious
The expansions were fun
The music
Sandbox-style play

Cons: No aging
Babies were objects
The bugs - I hated those things
CAS very limited


TS2
Pros: There is so much I love about this game I couldn't begin to list it all. Just a few standouts would be -
The dancing. Sims could slow dance, Hula, Slap dance...all the different dances but especially the Smustle, which is the greatest Sim dance ever.
The romantic interactions, sims could actually cuddle.
Sims would get jealous/angry/sad and stay that way for more realistic periods of time
The children and toddlers were adorable and their play animations were great
The memories
Chemistry
Neighborhoods had more than 4-10 lots
You could create your own neighborhoods
So many ways to die
again, I could go on forever...

Cons: You couldn't really build a good basement
Limited CAS


TS3
Pros: I didn't care much for this iteration of the Sims, it is my least favorite and I didn't play it much.
It had a lot of the things that Sims 2 had
There were improvements to the building
More variety in CAS

Cons: The Sims look bad, in spite of the CAS having more diversity/options
I did not care for the open world
It was difficult for rotational play
Babies are objects again
It was more goal-oriented play and less sandbox-style


TS4
Pros: The Sims look pretty good and CAS has a lot of options
The basement tool and building, in general, is awesome
The multitasking is great
The pathing of Sims is better, less getting stuck
The expansions are good
Clubs were a great addition, making it easier to socialize
The vampires are much improved
It strikes a good balance between goal-oriented and sandbox-style play


Cons: The romantic interactions are sorely lacking
The dancing is lacking - no slow-dancing, no Smustle!
It is too hard to kill Sims
Babies are objects
Sims' emotions are too fickle, they get over their spouse cheating in like 15 minutes. The only one that is close to good is grieving after a death.
You can't see the needs of the pets or control the pets
The neighborhoods have too few lots
You can't create your own neighborhoods

Been too long since playing TS1 to coment, thought I do remember playing for hours at a time with no problem at all doing so. I also remember there being lots of cool features (hot dog carts, fish feeding ponds, sail boats in ponds, the wandering musicians, etc.) that have not seen since. The only con I can think of is retroactive, the camera limitations.

TS2: Pros: would take a book to list, though the greath depth of sim characters, intense and often unpredictable gameplay really stand out, especially in comparison to now. Cons: I know there are some, but need to think about it, after all it's made by fallable humans. I simply enjoy the game so much I tend to not notice/forgive any shortcomings. As for the graphics, remember this was ages ago so they need to be judged on how they were for their time. Can't look at 2005 graphics from a 2019 perspective, and same goes for sim structure and clothing.

TS3: I remember it as ugly, not relating to my play style, and almost impossible to get into. Bailed quickly and did TS2 exclusively.

TS4: Pros: Graphics are great, CAS is fun though face selection sorely limited in comparison to TS2, some aspects of build mode are actually improvements (move house/room, basements). Cons: as listed above and the tons more I expect will arrive in due course. Takes too long to list 5 years worth of bugs, failures, omissions, and all the rest of it.

A note on TS2 building, you must plan ahead, at least for the basics of size, layout, placement on lot and such. There are many more tools to work with and the results can be astounding even without CC. If I can build Titanic, you guys can build great houses, shops, and parks.

Sims 1:
Pros- Sence of humor, the concepts of the expansions (Hot Date and Super Star were my favorites). I was a young tween when I started playing and I played for enjoyment. So many funny and cruel things you could do.
Cons- No aging, no real costumization, no family ties, no genetics.

Sims 2:
Pros- Best gameplay and animations. I love that my families feel like family. So many things for my sims to do. I loved the Open for Business Expansion and it was so much fun to build different shops. There were so many activities for almost all the life stages. I love that the sims themselves had personality and they were all different.
Cons- CAS- no separate shoe/accessories categories, Build/buy- Nothing really seemed to match and lack of cabinets and curtains. Building houses is a lot harder than I remember.

Sims 3:
Pros- Open world (I never really had problems with the lag), Family relationships (I love that sims know who their step-siblings/step-parents are plus other family relationships such as aunts and uncles) My favorite expansion packs were probably Generations and Seasons as they add a whole lot to gameplay for all life stages. I love the little details in the game as well.
Cons- Sims don't look that great, build/buy is really ugly as well and I downloaded a lot of cc for this game. No connecting worlds or being able to travel between them.

Sims 4:
Pros- The CAS is amazing and the sims look amazing, too. My favorite looking sims out of all four games. The build/buy is also great. It's not hard to decorate and a lot of the pieces fit together great. It's easy to make sims and build houses. I love the stairs tool we got not too long ago. The toddlers are the best out of the last 3 games (I wish they had put as much effort into the other life stages as well) The game runs well and I've never had lag and overall the game looks great.
Cons- No open neighborhood/world, no family relationships to speak of. It's almost like a bunch of random sims just live together doing their own thing. No personalities (all the sims feel the same), no drama, the sims themselves are too happy all the time. Reused animations everywhere. It lacks the most in gameplay which can not be covered up by how great everything looks unless you're only playing to make sims and houses but I actually would like to play the game too but it bores me to death.

I think the Sims games are an individual thing and not a particular formula to follow - like life is different for every one or can be. I can find almost as much enjoyment in anyone Sims games as I find in any of the others with hardly no effort at all just by playing my way or varying the style entirely - and never letting the games dominate my choices. I have only been limited by my imagination eventually once we have enough stuff in the games. At least that is my experience. I will say the first Sims game was the hardest for me to find that place in Simming - but I truthfully love them all and my 20 years of playing them. This is MY opinion; no one else s - - nor do I suggest it is for anyone else. It is how I play and spend many enjoyable hours more days and weeks and years than I care to discuss. LOL.

"Writin_Reg;c-17331465" wrote:
I think the Sims games are an individual thing and not a particular formula to follow - like life is different for every one or can be. I can find almost as much enjoyment in anyone Sims games as I find in any of the others with hardly no effort at all just by playing my way or varying the style entirely - and never letting the games dominate my choices. I have only been limited by my imagination eventually once we have enough stuff in the games. At least that is my experience. I will say the first Sims game was the hardest for me to find that place in Simming - but I truthfully love them all and my 20 years of playing them. This is MY opinion; no one else s - - nor do I suggest it is for anyone else. It is how I play and spend many enjoyable hours more days and weeks and years than I care to discuss. LOL.

Amen.

Sims 1 - as a big pro, it was my first sims game and i enjoyed it as hell. Hot date was a great ep too. The biggest con imo is the sims not aging.
Sims 2 - the details is my big pro. Also, the wants and fears. Personality measured with points is a con imo.
Sims 3 - First time that we had traits (huge amount), sliders for almost everything, open world, expansions with tons of content, a lot of stuff to do... my pros would never end :) as a con, there's the need of a great pc to make it work without lagging.
Sims 4 - the pros imo are the gallery, much easier build mode, runs fast, pets are great... As cons, sims don't have distint personalities, most packs bring few content, whims were never updated...

TS2
Pros: turn ons/offs, wishes and fears, interests, mix-and-match swatches on build/buy items
Cons: time hopped around, lack of CAS diversity

TS3
Pros: open world, story progression, traits, favorites
Cons: art style, lag, microtransactions

TS4
Pros: art style, user interface, the gallery, multitasking (albeit poorly executed), perks system (for occults and fame)
Cons: neglected age groups, missing NPCs, poor pack integration, not enough traits, overpowering emotions

Microtransactions? You mean the Store? Following that theory all DLC can be considered microtransactions.

"Free-to-play games that include a microtransaction model are sometimes referred to as "freemium". Another term, "pay-to-win", is sometimes used derogatorily to refer to games where buying items in-game can give a player a disproportionate advantage over other players, particularly if the items cannot be obtained by free means. The objective with a free-to-play microtransaction model is to involve more players in the game by providing desirable items or features that players can purchase if they lack the skill or available time to earn these through game-play. Also, presumably the game developer's marketing strategy is that in the long term, the profits from a microtransaction system will outweigh the profits from a one-time-purchase game."

That doesn't fit the Store at all. Not least because loads of people have the entire thing without paying a penny. (there, I said it)