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king_of_simcity
6 years ago

Should The Sims start catering more for the AFOTS?

Adult fans of The Sims.

Should they be catered for? One of my concerns with TS4 is that it is aimed at the younger crowds which is all very well but that age group will grow up at times and adding to the ever growing adult fans. I am not saying that the game as to be all mature but it should be taken into account that there are a lot of adult players.

Considering that the game is 20 years old this year there is now people still playing the game who have aged 20 years. These players are more likely to only the older games rather than the brash humour of TS4 but they are a valuable market. I would like the next Sims game to take AFOTS into account and not just focus on the preteens who might only get bored of the game after a year or two.

Creative features are defiantly requested by mature players. Silly walk styles and potty humour are not. We are players with money and EA will do well if they started to cater more for the AFOTS. :smile:

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  • Kote-nox's avatar
    Kote-nox
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    6 years ago
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    Well, the wide range of players is both a sales blessing and a challenge. I think that making the game more narrow oriented (Adult or child oriented) could be a mistake.

    But I belive that the Sims could take advantage of multi-pack nature to cater both. With something like flavor packs, like an adult flavor pack with adult patches. So there could be two flavor versions of the game.
  • riverx2bananas's avatar
    riverx2bananas
    6 years ago
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    "Patrice;c-17400783" wrote:
    Hello Simmers! May I ask AFOTS means? please explain, thanks?


    Adult fans of The Sims. I didn't know either, but it's mentioned in the original post. so I think it is what it means :)
  • FaerieRose84's avatar
    FaerieRose84
    6 years ago
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    That depends on what "catering to adult fans" means. If it means more focus on family play rather than just YA Sims, sure, but I don't want to see The Sims add raunchier content than what was present in TS2 or TS3.
  • king_of_simcity's avatar
    king_of_simcity
    6 years ago
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    "@Alexciel;c-17400767" wrote:
    Well, the wide range of players is both a sales blessing and a challenge. I think that making the game more narrow oriented (Adult or child oriented) could be a mistake.

    But I belive that the Sims could take advantage of multi-pack nature to cater both. With something like flavor packs, like an adult flavor pack with adult patches. So there could be two flavor versions of the game.


    Good suggestion :smile:

    "@Patrice;c-17400783" wrote:
    Hello Simmers! May I ask AFOTS means? please explain, thanks?


    Adult fans of The Sims :smile:

    "@TamakiSakura84;c-17400866" wrote:
    That depends on what "catering to adult fans" means. If it means more focus on family play rather than just YA Sims, sure, but I don't want to see The Sims add raunchier content than what was present in TS2 or TS3.


    The most ranchy game that we ever had was TS1 if you have ever seen this:

    https://static0.thegamerimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Sims-1-Cake-Dancers.jpeg?q=50&fit=crop&w=740&h=370
  • Simmingal's avatar
    Simmingal
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    6 years ago
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    I mean somewhat
    I would love for them to stop trying to be ''trendy'' with the kids
    but I also don't want game to become ridiculously ''mature'' to point of immature

    like just fun timeless game that appeals with quality
    not with ''being hip and cool''

    back in ts1 and 2 days it didn't really bother me cause I was kid myself and now it just feels nostalgic
    but like with ts3 and 4 the popculture and modern stuffs really irritate me for reason or another
    and there is hardly a way to ignore all the modernities and just play like good old sims game
  • astridentanja's avatar
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    6 years ago
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    I saw footage of a hot tub interaction in Sims 1 yesterday, on Twitter. The current generation of simmers reacted totally shocked, that’s all I’m going to say :D It’s absolutely unthinkable they’d do something like that nowadays. Unthinkable. Sometimes I wonder if we moved back to the fifties without realizing it.
  • Kote-nox's avatar
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    "JoAnne65;c-17401167" wrote:
    I saw footage of a hot tub interaction in Sims 1 yesterday, on Twitter. The current generation of simmers reacted totally shocked, that’s all I’m going to say :D It’s absolutely unthinkable they’d do something like that nowadays. Unthinkable. Sometimes I wonder if we moved back to the fifties without realizing it.


    Well, it is said that history moves in a pendulum-like way. There are times of liberalization and times of strenghtening of social norms. And we DO are in a strenghtening one, because all the new changes (like our definition of marriage and what is proper in general) follows the current social norms, and even more, you can change them without a strong moral justification.

    For exampe, In games the introduction of gender diversity is not being done due to liberalization, is being done to adjust games to the current social code. Its adjusting games to what is "right" and lawful. So we didn't go back to the 1950's we moved forward to the 2010's. I mean, we went from a hardening of norms period (the 50's) to a liberalization period and then to back to another hardening period. We move pendulum like.
  • Babykittyjade's avatar
    Babykittyjade
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    Honestly I don't think they will ever go back to what it was. It's not all about the age they are catering too. The sims have more international players than ever before and they are always trying to expand to even more players. I I believe they are trying to make it appropriate for all cultures and backgrounds. Which is understandable. I personally don't wish it to become "raunchier" as people call it. But I do wish it wasn't so childish. I would just like to see more mature reactions,movements,behaviors etc. Especially for sims that are not goofballs.
  • hestiah23's avatar
    hestiah23
    6 years ago
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    I think they should. I don't think Will Wright's original intention was to target children. I am actually happy that they made Sim spin-offs for younger ones, such as My Sims. I think they should continue to keep games like that and develop them so that the original franchise doesn't lose the original touch.

    Bachelor parties? The Sims 4 could never!

    https://i.imgur.com/1BeHQbD.png
    Look at those facial expressions. The emotions... the happiness of each Sim. None of this emotions system was ever needed. In my opinion... these Sims were a lot smarter back then.

    I don't want an "adult-rated" game like The Witcher. If I want to play that fantastic game, I'll open it up. I just want the original feel of The Sims back in the franchise again.

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Should they be catered for? One of my concerns with TS4 is that it is aimed at the younger crowds which is all very well but that age group will grow up at times and adding to the ever growing adult fans. I am not saying that the game as to be all mature but it should be taken into account that there are a lot of adult players.

Considering that the game is 20 years old this year there is now people still playing the game who have aged 20 years. These players are more likely to only the older games rather than the brash humour of TS4 but they are a valuable market. I would like the next Sims game to take AFOTS into account and not just focus on the preteens who might only get bored of the game after a year or two.

Creative features are defiantly requested by mature players. Silly walk styles and potty humour are not. We are players with money and EA will do well if they started to cater more for the AFOTS. :smile:

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Should they be catered for? One of my concerns with TS4 is that it is aimed at the younger crowds which is all very well but that age group will grow up at times and adding to the ever growing adult fans. I am not saying that the game as to be all mature but it should be taken into account that there are a lot of adult players.

Considering that the game is 20 years old this year there is now people still playing the game who have aged 20 years. These players are more likely to only the older games rather than the brash humour of TS4 but they are a valuable market. I would like the next Sims game to take AFOTS into account and not just focus on the preteens who might only get bored of the game after a year or two.

Creative features are defiantly requested by mature players. Silly walk styles and potty humour are not. We are players with money and EA will do well if they started to cater more for the AFOTS. :smile:

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\"Patrice;c-17400783\" wrote:
Hello Simmers! May I ask AFOTS means? please explain, thanks?


Adult fans of The Sims. I didn't know either, but it's mentioned in the original post. so I think it is what it means :)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-02-11T08:04:24.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-02-11T08:04:24.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":2},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-franchise-discussion-en/message:1443108/message:1443111","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"255","rawBody":"
\"Patrice;c-17400783\" wrote:
Hello Simmers! May I ask AFOTS means? please explain, thanks?


Adult fans of The Sims. I didn't know either, but it's mentioned in the original post. so I think it is what it means :)","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1443111_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:112986":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:112986","uid":112986,"login":"FaerieRose84","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2015-04-25T20:29:03.085-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-9.svg?time=1721239660000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:112986"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1443112":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1443112","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1443112":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:112986"},"id":"message:1443112","revisionNum":1,"uid":1443112,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-franchise-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1443108"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1443108"},"subject":"Re: Should The Sims start catering more for the AFOTS?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1443112"},"body":"That depends on what \"catering to adult fans\" means. If it means more focus on family play rather than just YA Sims, sure, but I don't want to see The Sims add raunchier content than what was present in TS2 or TS3.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-02-11T08:48:17.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-02-11T08:48:17.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-franchise-discussion-en/message:1443108/message:1443112","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"221","rawBody":"That depends on what \"catering to adult fans\" means. If it means more focus on family play rather than just YA Sims, sure, but I don't want to see The Sims add raunchier content than what was present in TS2 or TS3.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1443112_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1443113":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1443113","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1443113":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:59386"},"id":"message:1443113","revisionNum":1,"uid":1443113,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-franchise-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1443108"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1443108"},"subject":"Re: Should The Sims start catering more for the AFOTS?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1443113"},"body":"
\"@Alexciel;c-17400767\" wrote:
Well, the wide range of players is both a sales blessing and a challenge. I think that making the game more narrow oriented (Adult or child oriented) could be a mistake.

But I belive that the Sims could take advantage of multi-pack nature to cater both. With something like flavor packs, like an adult flavor pack with adult patches. So there could be two flavor versions of the game.


Good suggestion :smile:

\"@Patrice;c-17400783\" wrote:
Hello Simmers! May I ask AFOTS means? please explain, thanks?


Adult fans of The Sims :smile:

\"@TamakiSakura84;c-17400866\" wrote:
That depends on what \"catering to adult fans\" means. If it means more focus on family play rather than just YA Sims, sure, but I don't want to see The Sims add raunchier content than what was present in TS2 or TS3.


The most ranchy game that we ever had was TS1 if you have ever seen this:

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\"@Alexciel;c-17400767\" wrote:
Well, the wide range of players is both a sales blessing and a challenge. I think that making the game more narrow oriented (Adult or child oriented) could be a mistake.

But I belive that the Sims could take advantage of multi-pack nature to cater both. With something like flavor packs, like an adult flavor pack with adult patches. So there could be two flavor versions of the game.


Good suggestion :smile:

\"@Patrice;c-17400783\" wrote:
Hello Simmers! May I ask AFOTS means? please explain, thanks?


Adult fans of The Sims :smile:

\"@TamakiSakura84;c-17400866\" wrote:
That depends on what \"catering to adult fans\" means. If it means more focus on family play rather than just YA Sims, sure, but I don't want to see The Sims add raunchier content than what was present in TS2 or TS3.


The most ranchy game that we ever had was TS1 if you have ever seen this:

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I would love for them to stop trying to be ''trendy'' with the kids
but I also don't want game to become ridiculously ''mature'' to point of immature

like just fun timeless game that appeals with quality
not with ''being hip and cool''

back in ts1 and 2 days it didn't really bother me cause I was kid myself and now it just feels nostalgic
but like with ts3 and 4 the popculture and modern stuffs really irritate me for reason or another
and there is hardly a way to ignore all the modernities and just play like good old sims game","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-02-11T11:58:02.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-02-11T11:58:02.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-franchise-discussion-en/message:1443108/message:1443114","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"595","rawBody":"I mean somewhat
I would love for them to stop trying to be ''trendy'' with the kids
but I also don't want game to become ridiculously ''mature'' to point of immature

like just fun timeless game that appeals with quality
not with ''being hip and cool''

back in ts1 and 2 days it didn't really bother me cause I was kid myself and now it just feels nostalgic
but like with ts3 and 4 the popculture and modern stuffs really irritate me for reason or another
and there is hardly a way to ignore all the modernities and just play like good old sims game","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1443114_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:6480":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:6480","uid":6480,"login":"astridentanja","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2010-02-16T06:30:53.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1721239543000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:6480"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1443115":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1443115","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1443115":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:6480"},"id":"message:1443115","revisionNum":1,"uid":1443115,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-franchise-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1443108"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1443108"},"subject":"Re: Should The Sims start catering more for the AFOTS?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1443115"},"body":"I saw footage of a hot tub interaction in Sims 1 yesterday, on Twitter. The current generation of simmers reacted totally shocked, that’s all I’m going to say :D It’s absolutely unthinkable they’d do something like that nowadays. Unthinkable. Sometimes I wonder if we moved back to the fifties without realizing it.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-02-11T14:27:16.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-02-11T14:27:16.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-franchise-discussion-en/message:1443108/message:1443115","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"315","rawBody":"I saw footage of a hot tub interaction in Sims 1 yesterday, on Twitter. The current generation of simmers reacted totally shocked, that’s all I’m going to say :D It’s absolutely unthinkable they’d do something like that nowadays. Unthinkable. Sometimes I wonder if we moved back to the fifties without realizing it.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1443115_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1443116":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1443116","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1443116":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:29260"},"id":"message:1443116","revisionNum":1,"uid":1443116,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-franchise-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1443108"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1443108"},"subject":"Re: Should The Sims start catering more for the AFOTS?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1443116"},"body":"
\"JoAnne65;c-17401167\" wrote:
I saw footage of a hot tub interaction in Sims 1 yesterday, on Twitter. The current generation of simmers reacted totally shocked, that’s all I’m going to say :D It’s absolutely unthinkable they’d do something like that nowadays. Unthinkable. Sometimes I wonder if we moved back to the fifties without realizing it.


Well, it is said that history moves in a pendulum-like way. There are times of liberalization and times of strenghtening of social norms. And we DO are in a strenghtening one, because all the new changes (like our definition of marriage and what is proper in general) follows the current social norms, and even more, you can change them without a strong moral justification.

For exampe, In games the introduction of gender diversity is not being done due to liberalization, is being done to adjust games to the current social code. Its adjusting games to what is \"right\" and lawful. So we didn't go back to the 1950's we moved forward to the 2010's. I mean, we went from a hardening of norms period (the 50's) to a liberalization period and then to back to another hardening period. We move pendulum like.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-02-12T17:39:50.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-02-12T17:39:50.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-franchise-discussion-en/message:1443108/message:1443116","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1202","rawBody":"
\"JoAnne65;c-17401167\" wrote:
I saw footage of a hot tub interaction in Sims 1 yesterday, on Twitter. The current generation of simmers reacted totally shocked, that’s all I’m going to say :D It’s absolutely unthinkable they’d do something like that nowadays. Unthinkable. Sometimes I wonder if we moved back to the fifties without realizing it.


Well, it is said that history moves in a pendulum-like way. There are times of liberalization and times of strenghtening of social norms. And we DO are in a strenghtening one, because all the new changes (like our definition of marriage and what is proper in general) follows the current social norms, and even more, you can change them without a strong moral justification.

For exampe, In games the introduction of gender diversity is not being done due to liberalization, is being done to adjust games to the current social code. Its adjusting games to what is \"right\" and lawful. So we didn't go back to the 1950's we moved forward to the 2010's. I mean, we went from a hardening of norms period (the 50's) to a liberalization period and then to back to another hardening period. We move pendulum like.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1443116_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"Rank:rank:13":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:13","position":23,"name":"Seasoned Ace","color":"000000","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:156538":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:156538","uid":156538,"login":"Babykittyjade","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2012-01-24T10:47:35.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-7.svg?time=1721239606000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:13"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:156538"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1443117":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1443117","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1443117":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:156538"},"id":"message:1443117","revisionNum":1,"uid":1443117,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-franchise-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1443108"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1443108"},"subject":"Re: Should The Sims start catering more for the AFOTS?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1443117"},"body":"Honestly I don't think they will ever go back to what it was. It's not all about the age they are catering too. The sims have more international players than ever before and they are always trying to expand to even more players. I I believe they are trying to make it appropriate for all cultures and backgrounds. Which is understandable. I personally don't wish it to become \"raunchier\" as people call it. But I do wish it wasn't so childish. I would just like to see more mature reactions,movements,behaviors etc. Especially for sims that are not goofballs.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-02-12T19:27:16.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-02-12T19:27:16.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-franchise-discussion-en/message:1443108/message:1443117","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"559","rawBody":"Honestly I don't think they will ever go back to what it was. It's not all about the age they are catering too. The sims have more international players than ever before and they are always trying to expand to even more players. I I believe they are trying to make it appropriate for all cultures and backgrounds. Which is understandable. I personally don't wish it to become \"raunchier\" as people call it. But I do wish it wasn't so childish. I would just like to see more mature reactions,movements,behaviors etc. Especially for sims that are not goofballs. 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I don't think Will Wright's original intention was to target children. I am actually happy that they made Sim spin-offs for younger ones, such as My Sims. I think they should continue to keep games like that and develop them so that the original franchise doesn't lose the original touch.

Bachelor parties? The Sims 4 could never!

https://i.imgur.com/1BeHQbD.png
Look at those facial expressions. The emotions... the happiness of each Sim. None of this emotions system was ever needed. In my opinion... these Sims were a lot smarter back then.

I don't want an \"adult-rated\" game like The Witcher. If I want to play that fantastic game, I'll open it up. I just want the original feel of The Sims back in the franchise again.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-02-12T21:03:32.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-02-12T21:03:32.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-franchise-discussion-en/message:1443108/message:1443118","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"803","rawBody":"I think they should. I don't think Will Wright's original intention was to target children. I am actually happy that they made Sim spin-offs for younger ones, such as My Sims. I think they should continue to keep games like that and develop them so that the original franchise doesn't lose the original touch.

Bachelor parties? The Sims 4 could never!

https://i.imgur.com/1BeHQbD.png
Look at those facial expressions. The emotions... the happiness of each Sim. None of this emotions system was ever needed. In my opinion... these Sims were a lot smarter back then.

I don't want an \"adult-rated\" game like The Witcher. If I want to play that fantastic game, I'll open it up. I just want the original feel of The Sims back in the franchise again.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1443118_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1742916204000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1742916204000","value":{"escalationMessage":"Escalated to Salesforce by {username} on {date}","viewDetails":"View Details","modalTitle":"Case Details","escalatedBy":"Escalated by: ","escalatedOn":"Escalated on: ","caseNumber":"Case Number: ","status":"Status: ","lastUpdateDate":"Last Update: ","automaticEscalation":"automatic escalation","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1742916204000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1742916204000","value":{"authorName":"View Profile: {author}","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1742916204000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1742916204000","value":{"rankName":"{rankName}","userRank":"Author rank {rankName}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1742916204000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1742916204000","value":{"postTime":"Published: {time}","lastPublishTime":"Last Update: {time}","conversation.lastPostingActivityTime":"Last posting activity time: {time}","conversation.lastPostTime":"Last post time: {time}","moderationData.rejectTime":"Rejected time: {time}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1742916204000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1742916204000","value":{"solved":"Solved"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1742916204000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1742916204000","value":{"noSubject":"(no subject)"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1742916204000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1742916204000","value":{"showMessageBody":"Show More","mentionsErrorTitle":"{mentionsType, select, board {Board} user {User} message {Message} other {}} No Longer Available","mentionsErrorMessage":"The {mentionsType} you are trying to view has been removed from the community.","videoProcessing":"Video is being processed. 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