The Sims in the mainstream media

"SimmerGeorge;c-17829279" wrote:

"Sallycutecat;c-17829081" wrote:

"SimmerGeorge;c-17829014" wrote:

"Sallycutecat;c-17828977" wrote:
I like to do my own thing. I've found Sims 4 allows the player to have more control over what happens in their game than the other Iterations. I like the level of control Sims 4 has given me. I can do what I want. I agree with you that it seems they want it all to unfold for them. I've even seen people complain that there's no drama and if they want drama they have to make it happen. Well, I think if someone wants drama in their game they should have to make it happen. I don't want drama in my game and I certainly don't want it forced on me just because someone who wants it in their game is too lazy to make it happen themselves. The whole point of the Sims is that the player chooses what happens in their game and how their stories play out. Having the game do it for us would be taking away that creative freedom that we currently have in the Sims 4.

@Sallycutecat I don't understand it when people say you can't do what you want in the previous games. Of course you can, you always could. In which way did the previous games restrict you from doing that? Can you give an example?
In the previous games you made all the choices like I mentioned in my previous post.

In the Sims 4 I find even if you want to make the drama happen, it doesn't happen. You have to imagine so much because a lot of things just don't happen. When I decide to cheat in a relationship for drama to happen, it's so mild it's almost nothing. Like I'm trying to get sims to not like each other and I can't no matter how much I try. The Sims 4 doesn't allow for creative freedom at all in my opinion, it simply forces you to imagine the things you want to happen because it doesn't do it.

I never said you can't do what you want in the previous games. I said Sims 4 allows the player to have more control than the previous ones. That's not saying there was no control in the others.

Since you asked, one of the things I found restricted me from doing what I wanted was the aspiration meter in Sims 2. Like I said, I like to do my own thing and because I didn't do what the game rolled as a want for my Sim, their aspiration meter was often in the red and then the Sim needed therapy instead of doing what I wanted them to do. Also the need decay was so fast that I couldn't have them do what I wanted. With Sims 3 it didn't run on my computer very well and the lag and glitches actually prevented me from playing the game. This was a huge restriction on being able to do what I want.

@Sallycutecat But then again, you choose what wants your sims get and if you want to have a sim with a family then give them the right aspiration? This way it won't go red? Easy as that, it's all your choice.
For me the Sims 4 doesn't allow for any more control than previous games but I would love to hear an example as to how it gives you more control? I feel like the sims 4 is a way too restricted experience and it also because it is this way it is very difficult to generate the drama one might want since the sims will be friendly to each other even after you made them fight.
Also the emotions system in the Sims 4 is also very restricting, just like the wants, but since it's also so unstable it makes it hard to play the game without cheating since your sims emotions are way to uncontrollable.

The glitches and bugs are all over the Sims 4 which prevents me from playing certain saves and the retail system doesn't work in my game either, or dine out.
For me the Sims 4 doesn't allow for any more control than the previous games.
And at the end of the day this is supposed to be a game and a game is supposed to provide challenge and do stuff on its own. If not then it's not a game, it's just a dollhouse. If I wanted to play with dolls I can do it without the Sims.

Even when playing with "autonomy off" in previous Sims games didn't allow the amount of freedom to use your own imagination that TS4 does. There just weren't as many options for the Sims to do. There were many restrictions (such as only being able to have one aspiration and those with a very limited number of possibilities.)

You said it "is supposed to be a game and a game is supposed to provide challenge and do stuff on its own." But that isn't how *everyone* sees it. I certainly don't. I consider it a game and I like that I can make my *own* challenges. I don't need to have an AI do it for me. That's the nice thing about the Sims games (which I've played since SimCity the original on Amiga and through all the The Sims versions). You get to have your AI challenges and I don't have to have them. That's the way it should be. Options for both.