I used to be really pumped and excited and looking soooo forward to Sims 5.But lately, after reading a lot of past interviews with various Gurus in the last year or so. My excitement is slowly fading and I feel like TS5 will just be a Sims 4.5 version.I'm going to predict that we WILL NOT get: CASt like it was it done in TS3. They might give us a color wheel for skin tones and hair, possibly objects. But after watching the interview with James and SimGuruLyndsay I for sure don't see them ever giving us CASt with the ability to add our own patterns again. Maybe something similar to TS2 where there were areas that had different swatches. And that would NOT make me very happy at all. I have a PC with enough memory and a graphics card to handle it without lag. Open Worlds - Instead I see them giving us Open Neighborhoods that your sim lives in without a loading screen but with very minimal lots to build on and lots of fake back drops and houses again like TS4. Apartments will again be locked and unable to build our own or modify it because in another interview with SimGuruEugi he stated "If we had allowed the creation of apartment buildings from Build/Buy, we would not have been able to achieve the look we were going for" and then he stated "There are also performance implications. You might want a building to look like it has, say, hundreds of windows and small items of decor. If those were actual B/B objects, they would all count against our performance metrics." So because so many people play on a toaster and they have implemented a "performance metric" which means small worlds, lots of fake buildings and very few lots to keep performance optimal.What I DO think we'll get: Real Babies in the Base Game Toddlers in the Base Game Teens that actually look like Teens and not YA replicas Basements Terrain and Pond Tools Pools (hopefully with "real" diving boards) DLC will be the same as TS4, but less content Editable Worlds (Not like a CAW tool, but at least the ability to remove decor or place it) Some Similar things as TS4 (CAS's push/pull mode, Build Tools) A similar "Minimalist" AI for Sims Personalities. SimGuruNinja said in a recent interview when asked why the storylines weren't as fleshed out as previous iterations. He basically stated something like "We decided to go in a more minimalistic approach to leave it up to the players to play their stories out". (They are also moving away from a Life Simulation game, and going for trends according to Laura Miele, EA’s chief studios officer, she stated "I think that Sims provides an incredible canvas for us to tap into all kinds of relevant trends, whether it be music, fashion, design and architecture, or in TV and media. And we are going to continue to do more of that. That is the direction we’re headed.”)So yeah, I'm feeling really disappointed that we probably will not be getting the best of all the games rolled into one game. But I would be absolutely THIRLLED if they took all of the feedback they've been given from TS4 and utterly blew us away with TS5!What do you guys "realistically" think Sims 5 will be like? (Please don't list what you "want" in the game, there's a million threads on that already. I'm interested in hearing what you guys know "deep in your heart" it will be like.)If you think what I've said is wrong, I'm really interested in hearing your theories and why.

OP, I'm feeling much the same as you. A while ago I was excited about the idea of TS5, but that's rapidly fading as I just don't have much hope in TS5 being a robust improvement. I think TS5's build and CAS will probably be very similar because they both seem well received. I'd like to think the elements that came in patches (as you've listed) will be included in base game.I have no hope that things like weather and pets will be included in base game even though these are things that I would like to be included in base game. I think EA would rather release these features for a cost right away and then get to the "exciting" stuff afterwards, similar to how they're doing now. I'm over it honestly. I really don't know if the personalities will be improved. The team doesn't seem to find anything wrong with them or how players receive the way personalities operate in the game, so I don't know if they would think this is an area that needs improvement. Part of the reason I want TS5 to be here soon is so I can just know what it's like, and then I can know if I'll stick with TS4 or move on. I know some people say you can play more than one version, but that only works for me with a game like Pokemon lol. I can't play more than one version of TS at the same time.

dunno man, i rather not say what i already don't expect just so devs don't think it will be fine if such content is missing in the game. but if it's another disappointment like ts4 i'm definitely giving up on supporting this franchise.

In view of the guru comments mentioned by the OP, we are going from dog you-know-what to the elephant version. They clearly have abandoned what made the series great so will give us TS4 on steroids. My TS 2 & 3 run just fine, thanks, and have a machine that runs TS1 if am so inclined. To chase trends means being out of date as soon as those trends change, which they all do, and very quickly.

It must be difficult to design a game for users with vastly different computer set ups. I play TS3 and TS4 on a $1500 gaming laptop and they both run as smooth as silk. And yet $1500 shouldn’t be the barrier of entry to play this game. The developers have to consider younger users with less equipped rigs. Otherwise it’s just elitist.

We pay for a complete GAME, and they're always telling us we would rather take pictures against pretty backdrops.They invested money in repackaging the game and trying to draw in more people rather than fixing bugs and making it playable for the customers they already had.It feels like they keep trying to not have to do anything, while gaslighting us into believing that taking pretty pictures is so much better than playing a game. Like we really just want to take pictures, and we need them to help us understand. But they charge us for a fully featured GAME, of course.After seeing them double down on conditioning their fanbase that gameplay is not what they really want or need, I'm basically expecting anything that comes out of this team to be even more DOA than Sims 4. And that they will double down even more after that. I'm taking what I know of them, factoring in their refusal to see past the ends of their own noses, and expecting their history of doubling down and gaslighting-even-more to continue.I realistically expect Sims 5 to be everything that they have shown themselves to be, and more besides.

Chicklet45368

Rising Traveler

5 years ago

What Do You "Realistically" Think Sims 5 Will Be Like?

I used to be really pumped and excited and looking soooo forward to Sims 5.

But lately, after reading a lot of past interviews with various Gurus in the last year or so. My excitement is slowly fading and I feel like TS5 will just be a Sims 4.5 version.

I'm going to predict that we WILL NOT get:

CASt like it was it done in TS3. They might give us a color wheel for skin tones and hair, possibly objects. But after watching the interview with James and SimGuruLyndsay I for sure don't see them ever giving us CASt with the ability to add our own patterns again. Maybe something similar to TS2 where there were areas that had different swatches. And that would NOT make me very happy at all. I have a PC with enough memory and a graphics card to handle it without lag.
Open Worlds - Instead I see them giving us Open Neighborhoods that your sim lives in without a loading screen but with very minimal lots to build on and lots of fake back drops and houses again like TS4.
Apartments will again be locked and unable to build our own or modify it because in another interview with SimGuruEugi he stated "If we had allowed the creation of apartment buildings from Build/Buy, we would not have been able to achieve the look we were going for" and then he stated "There are also performance implications. You might want a building to look like it has, say, hundreds of windows and small items of decor. If those were actual B/B objects, they would all count against our performance metrics." So because so many people play on a toaster and they have implemented a "performance metric" which means small worlds, lots of fake buildings and very few lots to keep performance optimal.

What I DO think we'll get:
- Real Babies in the Base Game
- Toddlers in the Base Game
- Teens that actually look like Teens and not YA replicas
- Basements
- Terrain and Pond Tools
- Pools (hopefully with "real" diving boards)
- DLC will be the same as TS4, but less content
- Editable Worlds (Not like a CAW tool, but at least the ability to remove decor or place it)
- Some Similar things as TS4 (CAS's push/pull mode, Build Tools)
- A similar "Minimalist" AI for Sims Personalities. SimGuruNinja said in a recent interview when asked why the storylines weren't as fleshed out as previous iterations. He basically stated something like "We decided to go in a more minimalistic approach to leave it up to the players to play their stories out". (They are also moving away from a Life Simulation game, and going for trends according to Laura Miele, EA’s chief studios officer, she stated "I think that Sims provides an incredible canvas for us to tap into all kinds of relevant trends, whether it be music, fashion, design and architecture, or in TV and media. And we are going to continue to do more of that. That is the direction we’re headed.”)
So yeah, I'm feeling really disappointed that we probably will not be getting the best of all the games rolled into one game. But I would be absolutely THIRLLED if they took all of the feedback they've been given from TS4 and utterly blew us away with TS5!

What do you guys "realistically" think Sims 5 will be like? (Please don't list what you "want" in the game, there's a million threads on that already. I'm interested in hearing what you guys know "deep in your heart" it will be like.)

If you think what I've said is wrong, I'm really interested in hearing your theories and why.

NationalPokedex
5 years ago
OP, I'm feeling much the same as you. A while ago I was excited about the idea of TS5, but that's rapidly fading as I just don't have much hope in TS5 being a robust improvement. I think TS5's build and CAS will probably be very similar because they both seem well received. I'd like to think the elements that came in patches (as you've listed) will be included in base game.

I have no hope that things like weather and pets will be included in base game even though these are things that I would like to be included in base game. I think EA would rather release these features for a cost right away and then get to the "exciting" stuff afterwards, similar to how they're doing now. I'm over it honestly.

I really don't know if the personalities will be improved. The team doesn't seem to find anything wrong with them or how players receive the way personalities operate in the game, so I don't know if they would think this is an area that needs improvement.

Part of the reason I want TS5 to be here soon is so I can just know what it's like, and then I can know if I'll stick with TS4 or move on. I know some people say you can play more than one version, but that only works for me with a game like Pokemon lol. I can't play more than one version of TS at the same time.
imahulazombie
5 years ago
dunno man, i rather not say what i already don't expect just so devs don't think it will be fine if such content is missing in the game.
but if it's another disappointment like ts4 i'm definitely giving up on supporting this franchise.
OldeSimsFan
Seasoned Rookie
5 years ago
In view of the guru comments mentioned by the OP, we are going from dog you-know-what to the elephant version. They clearly have abandoned what made the series great so will give us TS4 on steroids. My TS 2 & 3 run just fine, thanks, and have a machine that runs TS1 if am so inclined. To chase trends means being out of date as soon as those trends change, which they all do, and very quickly.
BradBoney
5 years ago
It must be difficult to design a game for users with vastly different computer set ups. I play TS3 and TS4 on a $1500 gaming laptop and they both run as smooth as silk. And yet $1500 shouldn’t be the barrier of entry to play this game. The developers have to consider younger users with less equipped rigs. Otherwise it’s just elitist.
BayouGir1
5 years ago
We pay for a complete GAME, and they're always telling us we would rather take pictures against pretty backdrops.

They invested money in repackaging the game and trying to draw in more people rather than fixing bugs and making it playable for the customers they already had.

It feels like they keep trying to not have to do anything, while gaslighting us into believing that taking pretty pictures is so much better than playing a game.

Like we really just want to take pictures, and we need them to help us understand.

But they charge us for a fully featured GAME, of course.

After seeing them double down on conditioning their fanbase that gameplay is not what they really want or need, I'm basically expecting anything that comes out of this team to be even more DOA than Sims 4. And that they will double down even more after that.

I'm taking what I know of them, factoring in their refusal to see past the ends of their own noses, and expecting their history of doubling down and gaslighting-even-more to continue.

I realistically expect Sims 5 to be everything that they have shown themselves to be, and more besides.
ke_Wiired
5 years ago
All I know is the Sims 5 will be their last chance to keep me as part of their franchise.
Mannanna
New Spectator
5 years ago
Well...I am a rare Simmer ( on this forum ) that started to play Sims1 when I was an adult which I think changes the way I play the game and also my expectations. What I hear most people wish for here is a dollhouse/family play style which I find boring.I think Sims4 has done quite well to please me except for the sims themselves, I miss their personalities.I think they tried to put more emphasis on the sims feelings more than reactions and most of us know it didn't pan out well.

So, with that being said, I hope the team has learned and will make Sims5 more about reactions rather than feelings.I think the basegame will be quite barren as far as "stuff" goes but that will make me look forward to expacks more. I wish for an open neighborhood and less of "their story" as far as backdrops in the world but I don't think that will happen. A premade pretty world is a better selling point. :/
Am I excited about Sims5? I'm with you there @Chicklet453681 I so used to be! Now I slowly but surely say a sad goodbye to the game I used to love.
Peapod79
New Spectator
5 years ago
Absolutely agree with OP. TS5 isn't going to much different, if any from TS4. DLC will get stripped back further. They probably will make sure that they launch with better babies and toddlers. I wouldn't be surprised to see the colour wheel back for skin, hair and eyes.

I'd have to see how reviews pan out before I make up my mind on it. I certainly didn't just toss TS3 aside for TS4. I didn't even get TS4 until after the toddlers were patched in. I was excited when TS4 was announced (much like every one else) but when I saw that base game... :/ I really don't think TS5 will make that mistake again, but I don't expect it to be ground breaking anymore either.
logionX
Seasoned Vanguard
5 years ago
Let's see.

Made for both PC, the xbox series X and the PS5, they are not released yet so we do not know exactly what their games will be like, it does not look we are seeing a huge leap in graphics but we are seeing improvements when it comes to performance, the PS5 will for example use SSD's to make games be able to load assets (models, textures etc.) much faster. This means that the PC requirements will probably go up if they want their PC version to look and run as good as their console version, but not too much.
This could also lead to that we might see larger neighborhoods or open worlds. Maybe even create a style since if they are able to make a good engine that can handle it, textures should be loading much faster.
I think that we will see online features for the sims5, we will either have an online separate module with microtransactions and events and a single player module where they will sell you packs, or they will find a way to implement both. If they will do that I suspect that you will be the one who will host your world on your PC and players will be able to connect to it if you want. DLC will be less content because they will expect you to use it during their online events.
I think that Mod support will still be a thing, you will probably still be able to mod your game as long as it stays offline.
I think that they will either rework the emotion system or drop it entirely for the sims5 and they will use some other method for sims to react to different situations.
I don't think that we will see create a world make a return, it sounds too complicated and could also prevent them from selling packs...
I think the base game will have more features at launch, moving babies, pools etc.
I think that since the game will have an upgrade when it comes to performance and graphics that the sims will look much better, with higher resolution textures I think that they will go for something less cartoony.
Something that seems to be common these days are that they build games to market other games or franchises, I think that we will probably see more content like the Star Wars pack but they will be hosted like events. This is what they are doing in Fortnite for example.

Those are my predictions, better performance, online, packs and microtransactions, still possible to play offline, single player content will probably be the same, maybe even less because they will make online content as well. Hopefully they will not go the online route but it feels like all other games are going that way right now.
Chicklet45368
Rising Traveler
5 years ago
I don't have a "gaming rig". I have a normal computer that has 16GB of RAM and a decent graphics card. I just bought it in January of this year and it was about $400. My other computer, which runs TS3 & TS4 both fine, was an older PC with Windows 7 on it, I upgraded it years ago with more memory and a graphics card for about $150. I had to invest in a new computer because Windows 7 was no longer being supported and I work remotely from home and I have to show my windows operating system is up to date at least twice a year for work. So a new PC was a necessity for me. I have never bought a PC specifically for "gaming". But I have always upgraded any PC with more memory, not for just gaming, but for every day functions and tasks. And an integrated onboard graphics card just does not work with most games, at all. So updating with a new, cheap graphics card is a really cost efficient way to get the most out of a low-end computer.