there's lots of things I like about sims 2 the wants and fears and memories which I would love to be put in other sims games as well as the fact thatthey can die of illness the things that I don't like are the fact that its so hard to keep there needs up and the fact that they age faster if you don't fulfill there wants if my sims starve I want it to be because they could not afford food I don't want it to be because they fill asleep in there dinner or because they cant be bothered to go to the fridge

Been playing since the game first came out and have seldom had a problem keeping sims needs upl In those rare instances there is the 'maxMotives' cheat that will take care of things quickly.Aging is by the clock, not by wants, so they don't age faster if wants get low. There are a few things that extend the age for a given case beyond the set limits. Besides, aging is totally under player control as it can be turned on or off (default is on) as desired.Have yet to have a sim starve, even those that have fallen asleep while eating. Wake them up, get more food down, repeat as necessary until you can send them to a couch for a nap. While one does need to be mindful of the needs bars, keeping them going is not difficult.Not seen a sim decline to go to the fridge. More like a mad dash to it when hunger is low to 'stuff face'.

Can’t say it forms my overall opinion about the game (not least because I played Sims 2 too briefly to have a thorough one, but also because I think less appreciated details don’t make or break a game), but I didn’t like the deadly loop my pregnant sim found herself in when she returned from Twikii Island. Too tired to eat, too hungry to sleep. There was only one way to get her out of that: cheating. If the game allows just two options, cheat or die, for me that’s too much. Especially because in no way did it represent reality, it felt over the top. But most importantly: I couldn’t have helped it. She had been fine when she left to go to Twikii Island and she was fine when she returned home. It was the game that decided to do the deadly loop thing during traveling.Again, for me this doesn’t make or break a game in general, but it felt overdone to me.

"Oldeseadogge;c-17405008" wrote:Been playing since the game first came out and have seldom had a problem keeping sims needs upl In those rare instances there is the 'maxMotives' cheat that will take care of things quickly.Aging is by the clock, not by wants, so they don't age faster if wants get low. There are a few things that extend the age for a given case beyond the set limits. Besides, aging is totally under player control as it can be turned on or off (default is on) as desired.Have yet to have a sim starve, even those that have fallen asleep while eating. Wake them up, get more food down, repeat as necessary until you can send them to a couch for a nap. While one does need to be mindful of the needs bars, keeping them going is not difficult.Not seen a sim decline to go to the fridge. More like a mad dash to it when hunger is low to 'stuff face'.but I thought when I started the game it said the more wants you fulfill the happier your sims is and the longer they will live did I just misunderstand ? @Oldeseadogge

"JoAnne65;c-17405099" wrote:Can’t say it forms my overall opinion about the game (not least because I played Sims 2 too briefly to have a thorough one, but also because I think less appreciated details don’t make or break a game), but I didn’t like the deadly loop my pregnant sim found herself in when she returned from Twikii Island. Too tired to eat, too hungry to sleep. There was only one way to get her out of that: cheating. If the game allows just two options, cheat or die, for me that’s too much. Especially because in no way did it represent reality, it felt over the top. But most importantly: I couldn’t have helped it. She had been fine when she left to go to Twikii Island and she was fine when she returned home. It was the game that decided to do the deadly loop thing during traveling.Again, for me this doesn’t make or break a game in general, but it felt overdone to me.yes I feel it was over done to which I would have been okay with if the game didn't auto save @JoAnne65 and even though I really like the game and I drama I want to pick when the game saves

I'm just going to point out how to play TS2 better for those who have struggled with it, so maybe they would wind up liking it better in the long run (other than open world and CASt or no loading screens). TS2 is built on the formula of TS1. Points matter.If a Sim is pregnant it is very easy to care for her (harder if twins or triplets, much harder) if you know her points in certain areas. Such as active Sims need more food, more often, and Lazy Sims need more comfort more often etc. Furniture matters. In TS2 beds that raise energy to 10 work faster. A bed that has a low energy point such as 2 for energy will take all night and she will be more tired.Here are some little facts. Comfort will always fill first (the needle starts moving before energy. So, a bed with higher comfort is also necessary. A 1 point comfort level for a chair or bed or couch etc. will take a longer time for your Sim to fill that area. Too tired and aching too much. Stoves and fridges have points just like in TS1. Not only do Sims need better cooking skills but better appliances, a level 10 stove on food points cooks faster and last longer (hunger) mixed with foods such as spag. and or a better, more filling rather than grilled cheese etc.If sitting at the table with other Sims or wherever, couch and or chair, Social will fill before hunger. So, it's why you see them talk so much in between bites. It's the way it's programmed. Their comfort is also filling so if they are sitting on a chair or couch that is only 2 points comfort you can expec them to sit there longer and try to fill that first, before social and or hunger. It's all working at same time (multitasking) but one will overtake the other needs/motives to fill first. Such as comfort, then social then hunger though they are all moving the needles at the same time. (Don't sit very hungry Sims with those with low social, and or neater Sims who take longer to eat, sloppy Sims hurry and finish but may get delayed by those with low social trying to keep talking.) AKA personality points matter of what type of Sim you have and how much comfort, food and energy they are going to use. Outgoing Sims (high social points) need more talking all the time.Hope that helps. :)

why I don't like sims 2 as much as3 and 4

comicsforever
5 years ago
"Courfeyrac;c-17408790" wrote:
"comicsforlife;c-17405237" wrote:
"Oldeseadogge;c-17405008" wrote:
Been playing since the game first came out and have seldom had a problem keeping sims needs upl In those rare instances there is the 'maxMotives' cheat that will take care of things quickly.

Aging is by the clock, not by wants, so they don't age faster if wants get low. There are a few things that extend the age for a given case beyond the set limits. Besides, aging is totally under player control as it can be turned on or off (default is on) as desired.

Have yet to have a sim starve, even those that have fallen asleep while eating. Wake them up, get more food down, repeat as necessary until you can send them to a couch for a nap. While one does need to be mindful of the needs bars, keeping them going is not difficult.

Not seen a sim decline to go to the fridge. More like a mad dash to it when hunger is low to 'stuff face'.

but I thought when I started the game it said the more wants you fulfill the happier your sims is and the longer they will live did I just misunderstand ? @Oldeseadogge

It's to do with how long your sims live after they become an Elder, not how fast they age. If their aspiration bar is red when they age up to Elder, they might only live for, say, 10 days before dying of old age. But if their aspiration bar is gold or platinum when they age up, they might live for 25 days before dying of old age.

oh thanks a lot @Courfeyrac for clearing that up
OldeSimsFan
New Traveler
5 years ago
Been away a bit, sorry. What Courfeyrac said. Another place where aspirations impact elders is when they pass on. A high bar gives them a classier send-off with hula dancers. This version has a lot of small and subtle things that add up as you go along, so paying attention to the details really helps, whether it's the points in objects or the many elements that combine to make a sim's personality. In that I think of what sort of person do I want that sim to be and lay out the 25 points accordingly. You don't need to use all 25, either. For example Lilith Pleasant has only 21, which goes a long way to explain the mess she's in. TS2 has what TS4 only promises, but it's up to the player how much advantage of that one takes.
comicsforever
5 years ago
"Oldeseadogge;c-17409759" wrote:
Been away a bit, sorry. What Courfeyrac said. Another place where aspirations impact elders is when they pass on. A high bar gives them a classier send-off with hula dancers. This version has a lot of small and subtle things that add up as you go along, so paying attention to the details really helps, whether it's the points in objects or the many elements that combine to make a sim's personality. In that I think of what sort of person do I want that sim to be and lay out the 25 points accordingly. You don't need to use all 25, either. For example Lilith Pleasant has only 21, which goes a long way to explain the mess she's in. TS2 has what TS4 only promises, but it's up to the player how much advantage of that one takes.

I can see that you really like sims 2 but if they ever did a remake is there anything you would want changed?
I know its an older game but I still think talking about what we like and dislike still matters
because who knows what the next game is gonna be like
OldeSimsFan
New Traveler
5 years ago
Yes, it whines, but you can still override. At least I could the last time I tried it, which was some years ago when I wanted a truly nasty louse for the villian in a story I was doing at the time. That was in disk days, so may be different with UC.
comicsforever
5 years ago
"Oldeseadogge;c-17410439" wrote:
Yes, it whines, but you can still override. At least I could the last time I tried it, which was some years ago when I wanted a truly nasty louse for the villian in a story I was doing at the time. That was in disk days, so may be different with UC.

oh it sounds cool wish I could still do it maybe they'll have something like that next sims game @Oldeseadogge
astridentanja
5 years ago
@ClarionOfJoy
3) I love Open For Business but I don't like micromanaging my sims' employees. I don't want to have to keep track of giving them breaks and their leveling up in their specialty takes too long. I love in TS3 that all that is done away with.

I never tried the OFB part when I played Sims 2 but it’s obvious lots of people loved that pack. I’ve always wondered if I would have too and reading this... It sounds as if you’re sort of obliged to do certain things and if there’s one thing I love about this franchise (and I only know one version properly, the third one) it’s that I’m not obliged to do anything. Everything’s my own choice, my own decision. Even WA, that I frequently see labeled as too RPG, entirely leaves it to me whether I want to do adventures or not. And if I do adventures, how much time I take to do them. I could even send my sim home in the middle of a tomb when he’s a teen and return with him as an elder and finish it if I’d want to. That’s what I like.
astridentanja
5 years ago
@ClarionOfJoy Thanks! Yes, that does sound awesome. I'm going to watch those video's, see if that's for me. With an upcoming farmer in my game this might be very interesting.
astridentanja
5 years ago
"ClarionOfJoy;c-17418406" wrote:
"JoAnne65;c-17418021" wrote:
@ClarionOfJoy Thanks! Yes, that does sound awesome. I'm going to watch those video's, see if that's for me. With an upcoming farmer in my game this might be very interesting.

The videos I posted are really helpful in showing how all the mods work together with each other - Ani's YouTube channel only show a barebones demonstration of individual mods but you get more information about each one.

Hope you post about your farmer's farm and possible store! I think they will be great like all your other builds!

Thanks ? And I will!
SEREFRAS
Seasoned Veteran
5 years ago
The Sims & Sims 2 were unknown,
only Sims 3 & 4 week known.
Also, Sims 3 & were the only Sims games that my daughter & I played.
GalacticGal
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
"SERVERFRA;c-17422681" wrote:
The Sims & Sims 2 were unknown,
only Sims 3 & 4 week known.
Also, Sims 3 & were the only Sims games that my daughter & I played.

I think. like anything else, the first experience with something is the strongest. You only played 3 & 4. I began my Odyssey with Sims2 and while I preferred it over Sims3 in many ways, I can see today how it is limited in its own way. Mind you, my grown daughter used to play The Sims and loved it. She was totally and by far blown away at the revolutionary concept that Sims2 was. I hoped for as much when I made the switch to Sims3. I was grossly disappointed. The Sims, themselves, even on autonomous, failed to behave in a quirky manner. Heck, they wouldn't even chat at the dining room table without my having to do so manually. I called them wooden. So much for the smarter AI we were promised. I felt betrayed. I can do without the open world, but I can't abide the lack of animated behavior from the Sims, themselves.

Now, come Sims4, the Sims, while not the same in their quirkiness, are lively on their own again. And thanks to the mods I use and the CAS, I can't go back and enjoy Sims2 anymore. I love having the celebrity effect, which is greatly improved over the one in Sim3, as you might have noticed if you have GF.