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5 years ago

Ground game/takedown defense broken

Product: UFC 4
Platform:Sony Playstation 4
Please specify your platform model. Sony PlayStation 4 Pro
What is your gamertag/PSN ID? BO-DACIOUS
Can you tell us the date (MM/DD/YYYY) that you saw the bug? Ongoing - Several weeks straight
What time did you see the bug? (HH:MM AM/PM) All hours from 7:00am-4:00pm PST
What is your time zone? PST - GMT - 8:00
Which mode has this happened in? Other
Summarize your bug Ground game broken. Opponents win almost all takedowns, all takedown reversals fail, he blocks 99% of my transitions even after faking and his transitions are usually unblockable. Sometime the arrows dont even show up. I use the grappling hud to make sure I'm blocking the right way and it still fails. And I block very fast after he attempts a transition. Top/bottom game and takedown defense are 5 stars. Normal difficulty.
How often does the bug occur? Occasionally (10% - 49%)
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? I dont know. It just happens to me every time I fight.
What happens when the bug occurs? I cant stop takedowns or transitions and I can't transition
What do you expect to see? The ability to do well in the ground game. Stop takedowns and transitions and be able to transition myself.

I have had so many bugs in this game that I'm bordering on not playing anymore and not buying the next one. I've contacted ea about this game 6 or 7 times but nothing has been fixed.

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  • Product: Anthem
    Platform:Microsoft XBOX One
    Please specify your platform model. Microsoft Xbox One X
    Please select your region Other
    Were you on an Expedition when the issue occurred? No
    Where did this issue occur? Please include menu name or in game location. UFC 4 online It doesn’t register takedowns and off-line against the computer it’s difficult to defend takedowns
    When did this happen? (dd.mm.yy hh:mm) November 11, 2020 at 2:30 AM
    Summarize your bug November 11, 2020 at 2:30 AM I thought my controller was damaged but I’ve noticed that UFC 4 online is the problem it would not Allow me to take down my opponent it would register ones out of 100 times I’ve tried and then off-line against the computer also known as the AI it’s difficult to defend a takedown against the AI
    How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
    Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? I don’t know how you can find a bug yourself but I do suggest that you guys try it out and see what us customers are talking about and figure out a way to patch this problem it would be highly appreciated by every paying customer such as myself and many others
    What happens when the bug occurs? Other than the fact that I lose every fight knowing that I have the skill the win not every fight I have the skilled win because I’m gonna bump heads with people that are actually better than me and are just as competitive as I am which is OK losing is just as good as winning but taking away the fun of the game is where the problem lies to the point where I feel like I should’ve never invested in a game with all the issues going on with it not to mention the transitions are bugs as well I happen so to transition on my opponent before they put me in a submission hold and they pull it After submission before I can transition which doesn’t make any sense so there’s another problem that needs to be addressed as well as the joint submissions for whatever reason my bar is always big as the opponents bars small which gives them the advantage to submit me rapidly rapidly
    What should be happening instead? It should be fair to both opponents such as myself and whomever I’m going against to have a fair fight and even fight a fun fight and a great experience rather than being bugged and glitch to the point you wanna just break the game or wish that the game was never purchased unless you guys can fix that should be a great thing for us customers to actually have fun with the game we won waiting for to come out to only experience lags and glitches and bugsAlmost makes people feel as if your phone is always cheating which isn’t even true

    Unfortunately I have no files to put up for you guys to see what we’re talking about but if you guys are kind enough to get online and attempt a fight against an opponent so you can see for yourselves what the online issue is with the takedowns and then take it upon yourselves to go off-line against the AI and try to defend their takedowns so you can get a great understanding of what we are speaking upon I as a paying customer would appreciate it if you can be fixed To the point where we can have fun playing UFC again as we’ve had fun playing the past UFC games before this one would really really appreciate if you guys took the time to do just that thank you and have a great evening

  • So "occasionally" your opponent blocks all transitions? That seems fair. If it's every time that's another story. What is the skill difference between you and the AI's fighter, or is it vs other players (your mode says "other")? If you're being very predictable and immediately transition, any half-decent player will immediately deny and will succeed as it's predenied. When your stamina is drained, it becomes almost impossible to transition anywhere, so that's supposed to happen.

    Try to hold RT/R2 at all times when you're on the ground. Then you just need to flick to the right direction while holding it. Keep in mind that once you flick to one side, it becomes impossible to flick to another side for about two seconds straight. So don't frantically flick everywhere or you can't deny anything.

    AI on legendary (but you use normal) will not respond to fakes and will deny everything that isn't done after a denial yourself. It might suck but it's the only way to make the ground game harder for experts.

    You have a point on the takedowns though. Takedown defense doesn't seem to matter much. I block the same takedowns with a 1 star fighter than I do with 5 star fighters. That's not normal. You seemingly can only stop takedowns when you're blocking low when they're shooting.

  • bodacious1987's avatar
    bodacious1987
    5 years ago

    I forgot about this post I made. Have you found a solution? Since then I've found a lot more problems with the grappling (and everything else). I had a 50% stamina advantage on my opponent and tried to do a joint submission and my controller was vibrating (indicating my bar was over his) probably 95% of the time and he still beat me by a decent margin. When defending joint subs, I figured out the absolute maximum speed you can go without your bar lengthening and im able to keep at that speed almost the entire sub mini game. The AI has such fast reflexes that he still beats me. Literally the instant I change directions he does the exact same, following my every move with a 0.0000 second delay. I'm very close to winning the mini game but it should not be this hard when im doing it perfectly. EA: REWARD THE PLAYERS WHO PUT A LOT OF TIME, EFFORT AND THOUGHT INTO THE GAME. When I'm defending choke subs I can get my bar 100% full before my opponent is even at 10%, even though he has a more than 25% stamina advantage. Yet when I'm subbing him, he destroys me. My reflexes are really quite quick and I feel like I have my bar over his the vast majority of the time, yet he escapes with ease. Why is it so easy to escape AI choke subs but so very difficult to make them tap? Why does the AI have a 0.0000 second delay (same thing goes with blocking - i have a video where I went for a lunging jab and the AI (Skilled free sparring) literally put his block up and then put his hands down so fast its hard for some people to notice he blocked if they're not a gamer. His block was up for probably less than 1/10 of a second so in addition to the mind blowing speed, his timing was nothing short of perfect. But when I press block there is a nearly half second delay between when I press block and when my fighter starts to move his hands. There is already a delay in the human brain. Dont add another delay. Please fix this stuff, EA.

  • Ok so I've played a lot since I made this post. I believe I was on skilled ground game. But here's the thing. Despite that problem I found a way to win against that AI, but the game seems to have adjusted to my improvements. 

    So I tried a fight on legendary and I destroyed my opponent with the same stand up and ground game stats as me. I tried again with a slightly better opponent and I still won pretty easily. Both times my opponents were cut up and their faces and bodies covered in blood. I work the head, body and legs so I damaged those a lot as well. The next day I tried the exact same fight and the AI was 10 times tougher. Things I did in the first fight didn't work this time. Also, literally most of the kicks I do go straight through my AI opponent's body, which leaves me basically stumbling into him with my hands down and every time like clockwork he had an overhand cocked and on its way as soon as my foot goes through his body. And this isn't like "hmm I'm pretty sure my kick landed"...its very clear that my foot should have hit him and damaged him, pushed him back and prevented the punch he throws which either KOs me or almost KOs me. And every fight since that one the same things always happen. And if the kick doesn't go through his body he always blocks it. There's a saying in MMA "No single kicks". You want to set up your kicks with at least a jab to keep the opponent from being ready for it. So I almost always do that but he's able to block nearly all my kicks and also nearly all my punches. I'll admit I'm not an incredible stand up fighter in the game but I just don't see how giving the AI super human abilities is a good way to make it more difficult. Note the lightning fast and perfectly timed blocks he does from my other reply as well. So takedows are out of the question, as are kicks and as far as punches go I can't say I've tried everything. I'm probably just not good enough of a boxer. I'm just confused as to why I did so very good the first 2 fights but now I can't seem to land strikes consistently..oh..I cant remember if I said this but for takedowns, even when he had his back turned to me in the middle of a roundhouse he blocks mine.

    Lastly, blocking his takedowns feels like a roll of the dice. I'm able to block probably 1 in 5-7 of his takedowns when im just reacting to when he initiates the takedown, but I've been holding down L2+R2 for probably 4 seconds straight blocking body strikes before he went for the takedown, still holding the defend buttons he is able to take me down. 4 seconds in advance and he wins.

    I really hope these things get fixed

  • Product: UFC 4
    Platform:Sony Playstation 4
    Please specify your platform model. Sony PlayStation 4 Pro
    What is your gamertag/PSN ID? Ashif_cool_786
    What time did you see the bug? (HH:MM AM/PM) Frequent ai moves
    Can you tell us the date (MM/DD/YYYY) that you saw the bug? Today
    What is your time zone? GMT (UTC)
    Which mode has this happened in? Other
    Summarize your bug I was enjoying my career mode until now i started a new one and in every fight there is avoy 100 of takedown. Every minutes my opponent keep taking me down I'm a player that does like ground fight so much. I never experiance so many takedowns in a fight like that
    How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
    Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Idk
    What happens when the bug occurs? Ruin the fun
    What do you expect to see? Kickboxer cannnot keep taking down all the time Westler do But now every player does

    Fixxxx itt please

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