The AI straight line speed is absolutely absurd. I can have DRS and dump the entire battery running 0-0 wings and still not overtake or be able to defend. it was the same on launch for either F123 o...
Ideas
AI straight line speed.
Apophis-STR
7 months agoSeasoned Ace
I've just done a Quick Race in China (dry), with equal performance, 110 AI, please especially pay close attention on how the ERS was managed on the back straight of lap 2 & 4, and main straight of lap 3, and the changes in gaps (not by visual, but by seconds) between me and AI on those places under the certain ERS modes I used:
https://youtu.be/MjrYPzLHHiQ?si=3DhVeGusYPK1CB1t
One thing I don't really like about ERS is the naming of the Overtake mode, because in most cases it's not being used as a push-to-pass, but a set up tool. Simply calling it Overtake makes it a bit misleading if I'm honest.
ERS is more like the Overboost in Cyber Formula to me lol
Also one thing, never ever run 0-0 wing in any circumstances, you lose too much corner exit speed, and, even if you're doing low downforce setup, or whether you're draining the battery or not, the max speed plateau at around 320-340kph (due to drag and the gear ratio setup), you don't really get any straights long enough to give you any advantage even if you manage to be 10kph faster than AI, since you've already lost out a ton on the long, early phrase of acceleration.
You should focus on how to reached those maximum speed as soon as possible and then cut off any excess use of battery afterward, because AI has those ceiling just as you do, trying to break those speed by draining the battery is the wrong approach, a fatal mistake almost every new player suffered, included myself.
Here's another Quick Race of Canada (110Ai):
https://youtu.be/tD6wsA1lZFI?si=hyNByaioNQEDWBVs
The back straight on lap 4 against Hadjar is imo the perfect demonstration of how the player could do the exact same thing against AI, how powerless they would become just like the player when they're not being toll by DRS, and I was even running default wing setup, and without draining the battery.
Captain_Dipsheee
7 months agoSeasoned Rookie
Watched a little bit off the China and Canda clips to know that i wouldnt recommend you as my engineer. That wasnt exactly managed battery and one could see that once you came on the verge off losing DRS, they pulled away from you by tenths. Then came the corners where you gained ca two tenths just on entry.
And also, the management that goes on is different between a longer race then doing a five lap sprint. One cant compare them together, it makes no sence.
And also, who said i run 0-0 wings? I might use a low downforce setups and run a 0 rear wing, but not front as that defects turn in at corners. And if i want do run a 0-0 setup, i know how to manage that quite good. And if you read what i said before, i even had the battery enabled as soon as i could plant the throttle down in the long right hander at China. Which is around 170-180kph and i gain on the AI there and yet the catch me. Many others describe the same thing.
Even in the clip you had from Canada, at the Pit straight, Hadjar came back at you and if the straight was 100-150 meters longer, he would have the opportunity to fight you side by side into the corner if he goes on your left. Thats not normal and didnt even happen in previous titles where some are also reporting the problem.
I am starting to wonder if you are here just to argue and troll. Does not look like you see the whole picture pretty much everybody else is painting here. Many people writing here as seasoned players with multiple hours and F1 games under their belt. While some are new, most off them are not. Many off us know how and where to brake and how to accelerate out off corners. And if you read some off the coments, the solution many is using is lower downforce setups because the AI is so slow in the corners that for the players, thats the closest to a balance one can create by themself. Your answer higly neglects a lot off what people has said before. Like when we have higher exit speed, activate ERS immediately upon exit during low speed for acceleration and use DRS, how can a non DRS AI catch us? That has nothing to do with corner exit speed, ERS activation or such.
I advice you to read the comments here and on other forums from other players to make yourself more acquainted with the situation.
- Apophis-STR7 months agoSeasoned Ace
I wonder if you've noticed I was running None ERS setting at the later half of almost every long straights (even during overtaking other AI), and the gap barely changes as long as I've already reached certain speed (320-330kph), it's a demonstration of how to effectively use ERS, not just rush in and drain-it-all regardless of situations, you have to wait or create opportunities, starts recharging as soon as you know the move can't be done or is already executed, it's a patient game whenever you're part of the DRS train.
Regarding the Hadjar battle on Lap 5 of Canada, I didn't have DRS, so of course he was gonna gain at me because that's the intended mechanics of DRS, and even that it wasn't enough for him to do so whilst I managed to overtook him on lap 4 where he was in my exact same situation on lap 5, it was all done by having better exit and usage of ERS.
Also, the 0-0 wing setup is actually responding to some other comments here, I didn't want to make so many replies in fear of them looking like spam.
Edit:
I see what you meant by him coming back at me at the end of lap 4, but that was a bad exit, he was already right up my gearbox to take full advantage of the slipstream, and I even disabled the ERS because I know even then he wouldn't be able to make a move as long as I stay on the racing line (just like Oscar irl this year against Lando).
At the end of lap 5, where the gap was about the same as before, but he even had DRS this time, and still wasn't able to get ahead before the finish line, because I actually use my battery this time.