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Re: Please change the rules in a war for shields

Roccodonovan8

The same happens to us FREQUENTLY due to our overall agressive style and powerful attack levels. (Levels like: LvL 6+ Mags [myself using lvl 8], LvL 5+ MM [myself using lvl 6].)

It is a MAJOR programing oversight that EA CONTINUES to just blow off. When its members/players that spend LOTS of money continue to tell them to fix this oversight...and are frequently IGNORED...it shows that the company, EA, ONLY cares about their profits and NOT about their players who keep the profits coming in!

As you can see, they employeed their shields till the very last few minutes of the war when we were all out of our shields ready to play for roughly 24 hours. Then while most of us had left the game due to them not ever showing ANY sign that they would ever come out from their shields....then they utalize the progaming oversight to THEIR advantage to prevent a severely potent a sswhooping from our team.

EA needs to do one or more of the following to remediate this issue:

  • Place a time limit on base shields once domed. (ie.: Once domed, your base’s shield will only last 5-10 hours then you forfit any unrepaired war damages and your base becomes 12/12 again, ready to be attacked or attack.)
  • Place a point penalty on the shielded bases that remain under their shield for over 5 hours. (ie.: Every hour past 5 hours, the base earns a 50 or 100 point penalty off their Club’s total score. At the end of the war, penalty points should also be shown on the final score screen for each team.)
  • Reporting system that allows a club to report another club for violating “Fair Play Practices” which once verified, would result in punishement from EA in the form of a temporary to perm. war ban depending on the frequency and overall numbers of reports verified by EA staff and/or loss of points off their War Ranking.
  • Offer a BONUS of points to the team/Club that remains ready to attack/be attacked (un-shielded) the longest. (ie.: A bonus of 5,000-25,000 points to their total score depending on their Club’s War rank.)
  • Offer a BONUS to the players that remain un-shielded the most (by removing their shield within say 5 hours each time they are shielded/domed) in the range of 1,000-5,000+ depending on their Club’s War Rank and their overall positioning in the War battle (maybe by providing the best player points for the metal they receive for being ready to attack the most?)
  • Within the last 12-6 hours of war, a shield will only last for 5 hours.
  • Within the last 6-3 hours of war, a shield will only last for 3 hours.
  • Within the last 3 to war end, a shield will only last for 1 hour.

These types of implementations/improvements will level the battelfield and allow the War games to be played properly! Where a team cannot take advantage of programing oversight to win a war unfairly!

16 Replies

  • 9628077's avatar
    9628077
    7 years ago

    I am getting tired of all the complaining about the team's doming themselves as a stagety . It is one but they did not dome themselves,you did. Our team covers from Italty to Kansas, lot of time zones and different sleeping patterns. Have working 24 hour shifts but they all put in good points and are ready to fight.also have had holidays and deaths and operations to cover.we managed it.All players get to play and enjoy it. Find your own way around it. Quit complaining

  • 9628007...[Removed unkind comment - CM]

    The Club I belong to has members on an even further stretch than yours and we all band together as a team. YOU HAVE TO DOME THEM IF THEY DO NOT REPAIR UNTIL DOMED WHICH IS WHAT JUST ABOUT ANY SMART AND “NORMAL” CLUB/TEAM DOES!!

    [Removed unkind comment - CM]

  • meesfeet's avatar
    meesfeet
    7 years ago

    HopeUGotKevkar: 

    Not good to insult people who thinks different than you do.

    And not good to keep complaining for things you manage in a wrong way.

    You know what? I'm playing wars with my club since EA introduced its in the game, and opposite's domes had been a problem just few times, rarely.

    You know why? Because my club fights and rarely let opposite's club gain an advantage that let them safe and leading under the dome (sure, vs cheating clubs things are different, but they use to not stay under the dome).

    Aren't you able managing wars in this way? It's not a program error. It's not on EA. It's on you! Find a different way and you'll rarely find this problem again.

    Quit living on mars: wars started about an year ago, EA updated the game more times since then, but the war system remained this one, and nothing let think they are gonna change it, so if you can't live with it then quit playing this game and find out another one.

    Keep one thing in mind: dome strategy is not cheating. It's a legit strategy. Is it a funny strategy? no, that's for sure, I won't deny it. But it's legit. So find a way to force your opposite not using this strategy rather than complain.

    My club is not one using the dome strategy as a main one, but I'm a little tired seeing people like you calling cowards clubs that use it. Strategy games are funny 'cause strategies can be different, and the dome strategy is a legit one, and there's a lot of reasons one could choose using it. The main target is winning wars, and you gotta be smart enough to get this target, even using the dome if needed.

    I'll be glad if EA will change the war system about the dome, but till that day find a way to get over this strategy. It exist, believe me.

  • its strategie, so wtach your points and attack wise. every game has rules and

    strategy, use it. 

  • meesfeet:

    [Removed unkind comment - CM]

    Two, if you and the other prior tool that I was reaming out for entering a thread that he didn’t like are so “tired of seeing these posts”...then why do YOU and HIM come into a Support Forum and READ threads that contain topics that you are “tired of reading”?? That’s like being sick and tired of eating the same meal every day...yet you continue to eat the same meal...every day. Get the picture???

    [Removed unkind comment - CM]

  • meesfeet's avatar
    meesfeet
    7 years ago

    Bla Bla bla...

    #1 Learn my motherlanguage as I've learned english before acting as a teacher.

    #2 Learn respect and education, you need It.

    #3 I've the right to write the BS that I want, just like you. I said more than a simple "I don't like..", but probably your brain is too little to understand it, as is too little to understand how to play to not have the dome problem.

    #4 Even if your little brain could have understand what I wrote, probably finding a respectful and reasonable answer to defend your position was very hard for your little brain, and so that little brain opted for the stupid answer you gave. 

    Congratulations!! 👍👍👍

    Programing flow?!? Muahahahaha

    You know what you look like? You look like a teenager that still calls mum 'cause other guys are kidding him. LOL

  • 9628077's avatar
    9628077
    7 years ago

    Gee now I see your problem,you prefer to call other people names instead of thinking your way through your problem, it can be done just use your head.

  • PinnacleValley's avatar
    PinnacleValley
    7 years ago

    Hi Guys,

    I can’t believe this is actually coming from me (blame it on the meds) but when the Community Managers venture by they kind of frown on the naming and shaming bit...if you’ve read anything I’ve written you know what I think of the alleged “strategy” and those that use it. But just a quick heads up it appears to be getting a little too personal.

    HUGK, on a personal note I thank you for your service and my prayer is you will be treated with the dignity and respect that you deserve. I look forward to reading your proposal in depth. Your reaction tells me you are a true competitor and I would have loved to have competed with you back in our youth (of course I was well past my prime when you started getting close to yours)...I think we’ve all heard the speech “Winning isn’t everything, but losing is nothing”...but in my opinion it’s all about respect...respecting the game, your opponent, yourself and those that love you is what competition is about...winning or losing is simply a byproduct of competition. If you can extend your right hand to your opponent and thank them for bringing out your best and wish them an honest heartfelt good luck then you’ve won regardless of the score. (don’t get me wrong I will fight to the bitter end, but when it’s over, it’s over).

    So whether someone graduated from an Ivy League School Summa Cum Laude or simply thank you Lord (like me) 🙂 - we need to recognize we  each have our strengths and weaknesses...remember those that can, do...those that can’t...teach!!!

    Sorry about that...but I strongly disagree with the “run and hide” approach. Remember guys, EA Sports...it’s only a Game. 🙂

  • PinnacleValley's avatar
    PinnacleValley
    7 years ago

    Sorry for replying to myself but I missed something...

    Hey Rocco,

    I love your musical selection - Edwin Starr 🙂 - pretty cool

    i probably would have gone with War’s “Why can’t we be friends” ... but I think yours works much better 🙂 

    Thanks for the laugh 😀

    Guys, if you take this too seriously you’ll miss the subtle humor...

  • meesfeet's avatar
    meesfeet
    7 years ago

    PinnacleValley:

    I've read several posts you submitted, and sometimes we already answered each others in other threads. While with different opinions, you never called someone a "total idiot" or a d-bag just because he was telling things far away from your thoughts. And that's fine.

    I don't care if my interlocutor is General Swhartzkpof, rather than Ghandi, rather than Einstein, rather than the fool on the hill. He's a human, just like me. I don't need to list my pedigree. I don't need to know who got a bigger IQ or a bigger someother thing. And I don't need to gain the respect from people not respectful.
    We're not talking about philosophy, global pollution or world peace, it's about a game.

    So let's talk about the game.

    I am a competitor too. My favorite soccer team is Juventus FC, which motto is "winning is not important, is the only thing that counts!". My club is a competitive one, and we like wars where both clubs keep shooting like there's no tomorrow.

    I don't like the dome strategy. My club don't like the dome strategy. I'll be the first to be glad if EA adjust it somehow. IMO they won't. For a lot of reasons. For example: How many players wrote in this forum complaining about it? A lot, sure, but far less than 0,1% of people playing SCB. Is it enough? Surely not. Other example: there's only a global server, with clubs from the whole world. Every solution I've read about doing "timed" domes would be good with continental-dedicated servers, but with such different timezones in a single server, it would become unfair: having to go at work, or to sleep would mean loosing a war. So if 100 players until now wrote here complaining about actual dome (100? not counted, but probably they're no more than 50), how many players would write complaining about new domes? Many, many more. It would be easier to totaly change the war system rather than to simply change the dome-mechanism.

    Now, about calling coward who domes, let me explain why I disagree, even if I'm not a domer and I hate playing vs. domers.

    First I'm not english motherlanguage, so maybe it could be a misinterpretation, but in my motherlanguage calling someone coward is one of the worst ways to insult him.

    Second, as told before, it's a legit strategy. Noisy, but legit. Is it more important winning wars and rewards or doing chests? IMO winning wars. If a club wins with the dome, you can call him coward all day long, but he won simcash, war simoleons, keys, AND chests. And ranking points. So, at the end, cowards or not cowards, they just did better.

    Assumed that EA won't change that, wouldn't be better to just find a way to avoid it?
    Since war has been introduced (last october) my club has been starting a war every 3 days. So, let's say 50 weeks since the beginning, let's say 2 wars weekly, it results we fought at least 100 wars.
    We met strong clubs, weak ones, cheater ones, we won, we lost, and now we're in arena 4, but no more than 5-6 wars had the dome-strategy problem, most of all in the first period, when we was learning how to fight. In the last 6 months it happened just one time.
    So, I can be the fool on the hill, in a club of idiots, as I can't pilot a Space Shuttle. So I'm not trying to teach anything to anyone. I just want to share what has been my experience and why IMO my club so rarely had this problem.
    So simple that seems stupid: just don't let your opposite club gain an advantage bigger enough to let your club dome them all. Easier to say than to do, but it's simple math. Even when loosing, you and your teammates gotta keep attacking to avoid that "ending" gap. It needs a club active, always ready to keep that gap closed. Not always easy, but not impossible.
    Best regards.

  • Hi Meesfeet,

    The conversation was beginning to get a little too personal and It was time to step in with a little attempt at humor. It is very unlikely you’ll hear me call anyone an idiot...that term is often used by folks that have lost a debate and have nowhere to turn...I sort of consider it a badge of honor. You will hear me use the terms ignorant and stupid...which probably translates differently from English and certainly from Southern dialect. Folks from not around here sometimes mistakenly assume they mean the same thing...but that’s not correct. Ignorant simply is you don’t know no better but there’s still hope for you - stupid is when you know better and do it anyway. Most everyone knows that us Southern boys (also affectionately known as rednecks) last words are often “Hey watch this”...what they probably don’t know it’s preceded by “Bubba, hold my beer for me..”  Meaning of words especially in English carry an awful lot of different meanings and sometimes it can get confusing and easily misunderstood.

    As an example the term “strategy” in this case means a feeble attempt to cover a mistake and a weak justification of why one chooses to hide.

    By the way, we have never lost to a bubble team, have won 90% of our contests and have never hid...just isn’t in our DNA and yes we’re playing level 4 as well. Take Care.

  • meesfeet's avatar
    meesfeet
    7 years ago
    Thanks PinnacleValley, understand and agreeing.

    Just another little focus on another possible point of view (not shared by me, but when I analize something I use to search for every possible point of view, ad a devil's attorney): SimCity isn't born as a war game. I'm 45 years old, I've played almost every version of SC, since the 2D first release, and SCB is the only one with wars, even if SCB top weren't born as a war game.
    So, many players doesn't play it as a war game, using wars only to complete COM missions. IMO, leaving war missions from COM would almost resolve the turtle clubs problem.
    Best regards
  • Hi meesfeet,

    Thanks, just to clarify I still don’t agree with the “strategy” to hide to win...

    Roughly 20 years ago my 6 year old son started playing SimCity with his 8 year old buddy and trying to be a good Dad I would sit down with him after supper and he would “teach me the game” and I found that he was learning about economics, resource planning, decision making, budgeting, etc. and was having fun (of course we didn’t let him sit behind the computer all day) and I guess that was part of the appeal. He probably played until he was about 9 when he found other games were more fun... What I was most impressed with in the Maxis game it was developed to be very simple or very complex contingent to how you approached it. 

    I started playing SCBI when It was released it and found it to be a some what watered down version (but completely understandable) and was here when COM was introduced, the start of the mayor’s clubs and the war games which caused an uproar and quite honestly a drastic increase in cheating and shortcuts. I agree with you and even stated in the forum it was highly unfair to include war game assignments in COM. I do appreciate your optimism that this simple change would address the turtle strategy and for some it will (Hi Bethann 🙂 ) but for too many more It doesn’t matter.

    Take care.

  • meesfeet's avatar
    meesfeet
    7 years ago
    Hi PinnacleValley

    I already knew you don't agree with that strategy, as I watch this forum at least once daily, even if I'm not writing a lot.

    What I'd like to clarify is that I'm not for that strategy too. At least not when abused, staying domed for hours and hours. With my club, sometimes we decided to stay bubbled 2-3 hours near the end and then get out together for a mass-attack, but I think that's not enough to call us a turtle club.

    That said, I just don't share insulting people for using a legit strategy I don't like. IMO cheaters are a problem way more worst than turtles.

    Take care!
  • EA_Darko's avatar
    EA_Darko
    Icon for Community Manager rankCommunity Manager
    7 years ago
    Hey all, this back and forth bickering ends now, if you cannot post without insulting another user or continue to drag the thread off topic simply to have a go at one another then I will be locking this thread and action will be taken.

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