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6 years ago
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Are Jedi Fallen Order mods legal?

 I know that the EULA says "You may not access, copy, modify or distribute the Application, unless expressly authorized by EA or permitted by law. You may not reverse engineer or attempt to extract or otherwise use source code or other data from the Application, unless expressly authorized by EA or permitted by law."  But, are Jedi Fallen Order mods legal? If some are legal, which ones aren't? And is it legal to make mods?

  • it does get dicey - EA or Respawn is never going to even care what you do to their game on your computer. A lawyer would tell you no, it's not legal, but it really comes down to about the same thing as copying the DVDs you bought to your hard drive. What a clause like this does is protect the developers from obligation to fix your game if a mod makes it stop working. It also does give them the power to end your service if you're causing problems with it that impact other players or their own servers - like in BF if you were using a mod to cheat, they could ban you from playing on-line because of this statement. With JFO being a totally offline game though, they aren't as concerned what you do with it. Are they going to go after you for changing Cal into a pink Mynock? probably not, but they're not going to help you change him back. It's also disrespectful to the developers and the cast when you start changing stuff around, not playing the game as it is intended. Cameron Monaghan threw some shade at some players that were modding his character to completely reinvent his appearance.

    Here's an article for more info:  https://blog.jipel.law.nyu.edu/2016/02/the-ip-implications-of-video-game-mods/

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  • it does get dicey - EA or Respawn is never going to even care what you do to their game on your computer. A lawyer would tell you no, it's not legal, but it really comes down to about the same thing as copying the DVDs you bought to your hard drive. What a clause like this does is protect the developers from obligation to fix your game if a mod makes it stop working. It also does give them the power to end your service if you're causing problems with it that impact other players or their own servers - like in BF if you were using a mod to cheat, they could ban you from playing on-line because of this statement. With JFO being a totally offline game though, they aren't as concerned what you do with it. Are they going to go after you for changing Cal into a pink Mynock? probably not, but they're not going to help you change him back. It's also disrespectful to the developers and the cast when you start changing stuff around, not playing the game as it is intended. Cameron Monaghan threw some shade at some players that were modding his character to completely reinvent his appearance.

    Here's an article for more info:  https://blog.jipel.law.nyu.edu/2016/02/the-ip-implications-of-video-game-mods/

  • mcsupersport's avatar
    mcsupersport
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    6 years ago

    @Gargamel314 wrote:

     It's also disrespectful to the developers and the cast when you start changing stuff around, not playing the game as it is intended. Cameron Monaghan threw some shade at some players that were modding his character to completely reinvent his appearance.


    I have to take issue with this line of thinking.  Is it disrespectful to paint your car a different color?  What about changing items out on a motorcycle??  What about altering your clothes??  Sorry, I just can't agree that just because someone made a mass market item, it has to be left EXACTLY like it was made, for "artistic reasons".   Sure, if you are talking about a single painting by an artist, or a one off sculpture, then fine, but not a mass market item.   And please don't try and tell me a car designer doesn't put hundreds of hours into the look of a car when they are designing them, or some other "but this is different" reason.   Otherwise anyone who played a board game with different rules than those listed in the official game is bad, and anyone who changes ANYTHING that they bought is disrespectful to the creator.  Liking things that are different, or not conforming to what "everyone else" likes/thinks/does is more than ok, it is and should be the bedrock of humanity, we are NOT the Borg nor are we carbon copies of each other.  We are all different, we all have different strengths and weaknesses, and we are not all equal in every way, and that is good.  I guarantee you, I could never be a underwear model, but that is ok, as I fix cars better than most people....it is ok to NOT be like everyone else and to not have what everyone else does as well, or even sometimes to even want what everyone else does.

    So, it is OK to personalize YOUR stuff, so long as it doesn't harm someone else, this takes nothing away from someone who made it, and makes the world a better place.

    Edited: spelling, clumsy fingers get in the way sometimes.

  • draqonin's avatar
    draqonin
    6 years ago

    @mcsupersport  Well said! Could not have put it better myself. 

    Still.... if i buy the Mona Lisa painting i can paint over make it look like Pamela Anderson in a bathing suit.  It's on my wall now, it's my own... my precious. 🤓 I could tear it up and rip it down along with the wall all together...

    We only use mods for our play style and imagination...all in all... we are only playing for entertainment. Unfortunately today everyone is offended up to a point where we cannot talk or walk or laugh or express anything anymore. Anyways... stay safe everyone and happy gaming, have fun 🙌

  • mcsupersport's avatar
    mcsupersport
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    6 years ago

    @draqonin 

    LOL, you could do what you wish with the Mona Lisa....well, maybe as that may get into cultural heritage and such.....if you paid for it, you could do as you wish with your property.  I did say, it would be different for a one off painting or sculpture, and the Mona Lisa is a one off item and not a mass produced item.  To me, a game on a computer is one of millions, so what if they are changed, it also isn't like there isn't a master copy somewhere that allows the original item to still be around. 

    Paint a new picture of Pamela, you could sell the Mona LIsa for enough to get lessons to make it look good, even if you don't know how to paint now...lol.  I don't agree with destroying one of a kind works of art just to destroy them, or even because I don't like them, if you don't like them, why buy a one of a kind piece.  But we all know computer games aren't one of a kind, so to me all bets are off, same with wanting to modify a car you own, or your clothes.

  • draqonin's avatar
    draqonin
    6 years ago

    @mcsupersport  Yes, yes, and yes! I understood your point, no question about it. Right on spot!

    I was only making a bit of allusion with the painting. 🤓 Of course, there are certain unique items with special statutes. Like the Oscars for example, which you are never allowed to sell or destroy.🥳 

  • In general, modifying or creating mods for games without the express permission of the game developer or publisher can potentially violate the terms of the End User License Agreement (EULA) and may constitute copyright infringement. However, there are some situations where modding may be considered legal under certain circumstances.

    Regarding Jedi Fallen Order mods, it is important to note that Electronic Arts (EA) has not officially endorsed or authorized any mods for the game, and modifying the game may violate the EULA. That being said, some mods may be considered legal if they do not violate any of EA's terms of service or infringe on any intellectual property rights. For example, mods that simply change the appearance of characters or add new cosmetic options may be considered legal as long as they do not affect gameplay or create an unfair advantage for players.

    On the other hand, mods that modify game files to alter gameplay mechanics or unlock features that are normally only available through paid DLC may be considered illegal and may result in consequences such as account bans or legal action.

    As for the legality of creating mods, in general, modding is considered legal as long as it does not infringe on any copyright or intellectual property rights. However, it is always best to consult the game's EULA and terms of service before creating or distributing mods to ensure that they do not violate any rules or regulations.

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