Re: This is not Unreal Tournament, so

@ragnarok013 

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Good to see you here on the forums again @Popa2caps! DICE's reasoning for bots IMO is sound to fill a server and displace the bots each time a player joins and takes a slot. When I had my own BF3, BF4, and BF1 servers getting them started was often a challenge and one I see commented upon time and again by other server hosts. I really don't see a downside to having bots for this server fill mechanic. Perhaps those who object to bots under all circumstances can make a server without them in Portal?

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Yeah I mostly see messages in my email, so I come check what was said, but I mostly stick to reddit as I find it superior.

Let's just agree to disagree. I think DICE made two wrong decisions regarding bots. One being adding bots in modern first person shooter, Second, the users can't disable them. Both are terrible ideas in my opinion.

I won't speak for others, but I would honestly take a half-full server knowing everyone was real over a full server with half bots.

I get some people might have had issues with filling servers in the past, but filling them with bots is not fixing the issue, it makes it worse. It makes it worse because it doesn't fix the underlying issue, filling servers

Want more people to play your game, make it a good game and people will just fill the rooms.

@Popa2capsAnd I disagree with you completely.

Heck the AI Soldiers and Portal are the reasons I am getting the Ultimate Edition. Otherwise I wouldn't be spending a single cent towards this game and would have just waited for it to be added to EA Play like I did with Battlefields 1 and V.

The bots are needed to help fill servers until they are full (especially in low populated regions).

This was from a petition to add Offline Bot Matches to Battlefield 4 originally but it still applies here as well:


1) They allow a player to practice all of the game modes at any time with a full compliment of combatants. (With Portal we can have matches with up to 127 bots on ANY MAP AND MODE WHENEVER WE WANT !!!)

2) They allow for a full game without any lag, slowdown, or dropout. (Same with Battlefield 2042 if the Solo/Coop and Portal servers we get are close to us with low ping.)

3) They provide great opponents Vs. teams of humans (Once their difficulty is tweaked up to the Maximum. Something they confirmed we can do with Portal.)

4) They cause a game to have infinite replay value. (Especially with Portal)

5) Even if we can only play alone (no Lan) with Bots, it would be a great opportunity to practice all of the vehicles. Online it is very hard to practice new types of vehicles. 

Basically I am pretty much 50/50 about whether or not they stay in the Official All Out Warfare servers... As long as we could still get FULL PROGRESSION in the Solo/Coop and Portal matches like they already confirmed we will be able to.

@Jesse165 

I'm perfectly fine with people disagreeing with my opinion, I actually encourage it. No two people are alike in my mind, of course some will like the idea of bots, I just simply don't.

I look at everything in a constructive manner, I'm sure a ton of people will get an enjoyment out of the bots, but what about the people that don't? There is a fine line making everyone happy, currently bots only help one side.

People can use the argument that it feels servers, but in my opinion it just covers up the fact their still empty.

@ChugKendall 

Why I truly understand your point of view, I'm just a competitive gamer in first person shooter titles, and I really don't get that enjoyment from shooting bots. All I care about is playing with real players because I find it a more challenging experience.

I'm not at all suggesting that everyone doesn't like bots, just me. I know many players that get enjoyment out of bots, shoot I do when practicing new titles (sometimes).

My main concern with bots in Battlefield 2042 is players can't disable them. If players had the ability to disable them, I would love the idea the game has them for players that want them.

Longevity of Battlefield titles is tricky and I understand your view as most titles in the series do lose players quite quickly over time. I honestly just think people get bored because the last titles lack quality and/ or creativity so people move on.

As long as DICE makes a game worth playing, people should stick around. Like honestly, how hard can it be to make something that's already created. I still think players should have the ability to disable bots whenever they want.

@zakrocz 

Yeah, not being able to disable the bots is my issue too. I'm in a different boat. I got an Xbox Series X, but didn't like it so much, I stuck it back into the box (not joking). Waiting for GPU prices to get down.