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- EA_Leeuw3 years ago
Community Manager
Hey @TheHunterGT,
It's pretty normal that a CPU reaches 85c under the workload, especially if you are playing on a laptop for example. This all depends on the cooling solution of your machine.
This thread is about a constant 100% CPU usage since the Season 3 update, not a specific temperature of the CPU. Well - I am not on a laptop - so your "if" statement is not "pretty normal" and does not apply here. It is a full tower case with 5X Noctua fans and a Noctua NH-D15S. My cooling solution is more than adequate for every other program on my PC that stays under 75C.
In what world is a 15C+ jump from 70 to 85C under load - normal?
In what world is a 35+ page forum thread on the issue - normal?
We should change BIOS settings and voltage curves for this one game...when no other games do this? This is - normal?
Dear community - please go change ALL the BIOS settings that work for ALL your other games and programs for our new CPU patch! Yeah - that's normal.
Obviously, I am at 100% CPU usage as well.
This morning it is reaching 3C higher to 88C (two degrees below thermal limit) - and nothing else is able to run in the background. I could easily stream 2042 in OBS at 1440P no problem - now it is a slide show at 10 FPS with multiple OBS CPU warnings popping up. I'm streaming with the GPU (NVENC) as well...not the CPU (H.264).
Prime95 and OCCT do not send my CPU above 75C at 100% AVX loads. In fact - nothing other than BF20242 does it. None of my other 22 games (or programs) installed go above 75C. Not a single one.
The 70-75C it was at before the patch is "normal". 85C is only 5C under the thermal limit - and 88C is now even worse at 2C under thermal limit.
Your dismissive attitude as a "community manager" is not helpful to anybody. You are either ignorant of the real issue, uncaring, or a dev puppet on strings. Perhaps all 3.
If people like you labeled "community managers" don't care and are forced to reply with canned "it's normal" responses - it is clear it is a lost cause and nobody on the dev team cares either.
Save your breath, Mr Manager. This rant is more for my peace of mind than anything. I have uninstalled the game and will not make a further complaint. There is no point with patronizing and uncaring people like you at the helm.
Good day.
- Rokebo733 years agoSeasoned Ace@TheHunterGT Hey man.
Some cpu are able to work under high temps, and wil l not start throtteling. Youre thermal security could be customized.
And about OC, a game is not made with an OC system in mind/purpose.
So any hardware/software related issues is at own risk !!!
IF ya dont OC CPU anD GPU temp will; not reached that high !
And issues is often a combo of "things"
Bios settings+ upgrades, Bios settings and hardware , Hardware and software settings, hardware and installed software, bios _ hardware + software , and so on !
To find your issues youre need to start from scratch , no OC, installed as it came out of the box ! Make sure all hardware is compatible.
Even with 10 Fans in a case , you could get issues if there isnt a good AIRFLOW !!!
So many things that could cause issues and to complain about !!!
Its probarly a combo from game software and your installed software/hardware settings/installs.
Of course we all could help ya for tips and solutions ! Post a dxdiag, tell us what trouble shoot you have done ?
Cheers , no hard feelings, PEACE !!! @EA_Leeuw, Aren't you ashamed to release an unfinished game? on top of that, 1 year has tons of bugs????? what's going on with your dice mates?? I'm sick of you
- AOD_Mikezilla3 years agoNew Scout
TheHunterGT is absolutely spot on.
I have a Ryzen 7 5800x paired with a 3080 and being liquid cooled by a 280mm NZXT Kraken z63. Prior to season 3 my CPU temps never went above 67C. I was never even aware of the cpu usage until after this update I noticed my CPU temps shooting up 10-15 degrees. That worried me and I assumed my hardware was failing. I almost began trouble shooting it by looking into thermal paste, cleaning, chipsets, and more... Fortunately before I went down that rabbit hole I stumbled upon this thread and noticed this is a very common problem. The only way I am able to play this game is to create the user.cfg file and limit the corecountprocessor. Then, I have to deal with steal unusually high cpu usage and degraded game performance.I will not be exploring any adjustments to my computer other than the user.cfg file. This isn't "my side" this is "your side" of a problem (ea/dice). You need to fix or undo whatever you did to cause this problem. My computer ran this game very well prior to season 3. It's been almost a month and the root cause hasn't been addressed. Like Hunter stated.. this is insane that it's being dismissed. I don't care what the thermal limits, don't care about curves/fans, bla bla.. My game ran fine. My system is new(ish). The update that was pushed out is the problem.
- AOD_Mikezilla3 years agoNew Scout@Rokebo73 No bro. The issue is not the hardware it's the software. My temps were never above 67c prior to season 3. The new "better cpu performance" adjustment dice/ea pushed out has caused many people to have 100%cpu utilization just simly sitting at the game menu. I never even acknowledged how much CPU usage this game was utilizing because my temps were always below 67c. Ive got a 5800x/3080. Don't try to dismiss the issue or be a computer wizard acting like it could be anything. The man obviously knows his system and about how this works.
- Hello, flockI've just returned from the FIFA World Cup.Are there any new update on the problem
- Rokebo733 years agoSeasoned Ace
@AOD_Mikezilla that is not correct , those days games are made to run with 8 cores from your cpu !
And in youre case , you got an 5800x who got 8 cores , so all of them will be used for the game , this means cores for system it self arent "there" , they are but at the cores the game also use !
So your cpu need to do a lot of work to RUN the game and system !
In game console you could enter the command render.drawscreeninfo 1
This will display the ammount of cores total at your system and how much cores the game is using !
And yes i believe they will make a fix to support the middle/low end cpu's for running this game at their system, for now try USER.CFG , play around with the ammount of cores ya enter in this file.
So at the end your able to play !
And yes it coulde be all kind of "THINGS" with and in your system that could cause all kind of issues !
A cpu with temps in the 80 is not weird/rare !!!!!!!! People should be more friends with google so they could find all kind of info about this !!
Dont get me wrong, im not in attack mode , no hard feelings !!!
But know youre system and know how everything works is a big difference !!
Cheers and Peace !!! - AOD_Mikezilla3 years agoNew Scout
Prior to patch cpu was less than 60% and temps never over 67c. Post patch pegged at 100% while sitting in the menus not even in the game. Temps 10-15 degrees higher.
No other program / game is working my cpu like this. This is a developmental error not a user end hardware/configuration problem. The more people like you that try to say otherwise are justifying the inaction of dice/ea.
This issue has existed for one month. Cheers
- @Rokebo73 i dont think most here are running low end / middle pc specs when i see theyr dxdiag
the more plausible situation, given the patch history and quality of this game is, that the game is very poorly optimized for PC.
People are running other games that are more taxing than 2042 with no efforts but this game taxes suddenly up to 90 of the system ? yeah sure buddy - Rokebo733 years agoSeasoned Ace@Bolvard check your ammopunt of cores, exclude the ones you get witrh virtualization enabled !
Cheers ! - EA_Leeuw3 years ago
Community Manager
@TheHunterGT wrote:
Well - I am not on a laptop - so your "if" statement is not "pretty normal" and does not apply here. It is a full tower case with 5X Noctua fans and a Noctua NH-D15S. My cooling solution is more than adequate for every other program on my PC that stays under 75C.
@TheHunterGT, the keyword in my previous post is the word "especially". 🙂 Stress testing software makes a CPU work differently than actual real-world usage. Hence it is to be expected that you see a difference in temps.
But to stop this thread from going off-topic too much; this thread is about CPU usage (load) of a constant 100% since the Season 3 update, this thread is not about CPU temps. Because even with a CPU usage of 100%, it is very well possible to cool the CPU as this depends on the cooling solution of the machine. 🙂
I would also recommend taking a look at the Battlefield 2042 - Known Issues list, as this mentions a workaround for the CPU 100% load issue.
Thank you.
- @EA_Leeuw Hopefully Leeuw, your team will be able to solve this issue BEFORE the end of Season 3.
I have patiently waited for a fix to this problem, but seeing none, I would like to add my voice to this issue. Like countless others, I have also experienced 100% CPU usage since the most recent patch, making the game unplayable. I have never previously experienced any problems with CPU load.
As a 35-year-old doctor and battlefield veteran, it has been extremely disappointing to see the dismissive attitude and delay with which DICE is responding to this issue. Your listed workarounds are clearly ineffective. Despite my limited technical knowledge, I have spent hours trying various suggested fixes to no avail. It is clear that this is an issue specific to BF2042.
As a community manager, it is important for us to hear that you continue to acknowledge this issue and give us reassurance that a fix is being worked on. I fear that your developers do not know a solution other than reverting the most recent patch, which is unlikely to happen as it has helped optimize the game for many while ruining the experience for a relatively smaller, yet substantial, number of players. Do not ignore this segment of your community; we deserve better.
My dxdiag:
I am also still experiencing this issue. Whilst the CPU load isn't exactly 100% (low 90's), the game is consuming much more than it did during Season 2, using the exact same PC with the same specs. This is causing low fps problems and makes the game unenjoyable. I hope this is fixed soon.
If you use MSI AFTER BURN or something to limit the power of your GPU, if the GPU hit the bottle neck then CPU are free, and CPU are free there is no shuttering.
It's work on my case when i run 4090 on i5 8600k =]]
Why is there no update on this?
You guys work like an indie company.
The serious issues have been apparent for about one month and you can't fix anything.
What a shame.
- Rokebo733 years agoSeasoned Ace
@TheHunterGT Got some handy tips for ya, to check youre systems throttling issues , and what could be done about it !
https://pcguide101.com/cpu/what-is-cpu-throttling/
https://www.cgdirector.com/thermal-throttling-guide/#:~:text=Your%20processor%2C%20or%20CPU%2C%20will,their%20size%20and%20airflow%20limitations.
https://www.novatech.co.uk/blog/cpu-and-thermal-throttling/
https://www.technipages.com/what-is-thermal-throttling
https://www.electronicshub.org/thermal-throttling/
Maybe this could help ya, there is also a registry fix to manage throttling !
All said is that you need to , check your system/devices!
No hard feelings dude, just here to help and you need it !!
Cheers !
@EA_Leeuw wrote:
@TheHunterGT wrote:Well - I am not on a laptop - so your "if" statement is not "pretty normal" and does not apply here. It is a full tower case with 5X Noctua fans and a Noctua NH-D15S. My cooling solution is more than adequate for every other program on my PC that stays under 75C.
@TheHunterGT, the keyword in my previous post is the word "especially". 🙂 Stress testing software makes a CPU work differently than actual real-world usage. Hence it is to be expected that you see a difference in temps.
But to stop this thread from going off-topic too much; this thread is about CPU usage (load) of a constant 100% since the Season 3 update, this thread is not about CPU temps. Because even with a CPU usage of 100%, it is very well possible to cool the CPU as this depends on the cooling solution of the machine. 🙂
I would also recommend taking a look at the Battlefield 2042 - Known Issues list, as this mentions a workaround for the CPU 100% load issue.
Thank you.
@EA_Leeuw The high CPU temperatures are caused by an issue with CPU 100% usage. So why can't we discuss it
and why did you say that our high CPU temperature issue is caused by a bad cooling system rather than not your game- Rokebo733 years agoSeasoned Ace
@Putsy_Slayer yes bad cooling can be a problem ! And reasons why there is a bad cooling can be different !
Dust at youre alu cool blocks and/or fans.
Dust filters who need to be cleaned.
Bad cable management in your pc case.
Cables at the backsite/top from your pc case who block air flow.
PC to close to (wooden plates) walls who block cooling / airflow.
Old paste at youre cpu/gpu , mem chips ect ect ect.
To many paste or not enough paste at cpu/gpu, mem chips ect ectect.
Or fans, who do not produce enough Cm air to get a good airflow ! (old fans expire date/hours)
Fan Rpm , not correct set by software, or even bios (pc/gpu) that has some issues with rpm / temp curve !!
liqued cooling that need to be refilled , replaced !
So many reasons, (not all mentioned above here) thats why to troubleshoot step by step to find what is causing those issues !
Cheers - EA_Leeuw3 years ago
Community Manager
Hi @Putsy_Slayer,
@Putsy_Slayer wrote:
Why is there no update on this?
There are sadly no updates to share at the moment. When more news is available that we can share, we will do so as soon as possible.
@Rokebo73 wrote:@Putsy_Slayer yes bad cooling can be a problem ! And reasons why there is a bad cooling can be different !
Dust at youre alu cool blocks and/or fans.
Dust filters who need to be cleaned.
Bad cable management in your pc case.
Cables at the backsite/top from your pc case who block air flow.
PC to close to (wooden plates) walls who block cooling / airflow.
Old paste at youre cpu/gpu , mem chips ect ect ect.
To many paste or not enough paste at cpu/gpu, mem chips ect ectect.
Or fans, who do not produce enough Cm air to get a good airflow ! (old fans expire date/hours)
Fan Rpm , not correct set by software, or even bios (pc/gpu) that has some issues with rpm / temp curve !!
liqued cooling that need to be refilled , replaced !
So many reasons, (not all mentioned above here) thats why to troubleshoot step by step to find what is causing those issues !
CheersYou actually believe the problem is with our computer? I've played several AAA games,
and the CPU temperature never rises beyond 70 degrees Celsius.
The problem is with the game, not with the user, so please stop.Game is still playable for me, but hit reg has been crap for the last two weeks.
I haven't been able to play in a month.. I'm not tweaking anything on my computer It's 5K worth of gaming awesomeness and I do not have this issue with any other game I play, It's not a "my PC" issue...and I'm starting to question some of my life choices now.
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