Re: Sony update to PS5 broke peripherals

Microsoft and Sony needs to block TVs and gaming monitors with built-in AI cheats too.

PS5 requires all peripherals to have an authentication/security key.  This was true at launch as it is today.   This was effective at blocking Cronus initially.

Cronus eventually found a work around by cloning a security key from a legit controller and applying that cloned key to all of their devices.

The recent update essentially just banned that specific security key (and other known cloned keys).

At least that's what I gathered from reading through the drama on the Cronus sub-reddits.   I suspect the story won't end here.

I'd like to see DICE/EA develop a software based detection method as well.  I think Ubisoft rolled their software based solution 'mousetrap' a few months back.  Hopefully that puts pressure on EA/DICE to follow.

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@ATFGunr wrote:
@sk1lld That’s sweet. PC needs to do the same thing to prevents its use, as well as EA Anti-Cheat needs to be further developed. Some kind of policy statement from EA and Dice would be welcomed.

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@ATFGunr I'm not tracking here, PC users don't use Cronus as MKB (the reason to use cronus on console) is our main input method.  I've read that recently the exploit to have aim assist with MKB by having a controller simultaneously connected was also fixed so there should be nothing to prevent for PC.

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@ragnarok013 wrote:

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@ATFGunr wrote:
@sk1lldThat’s sweet. PC needs to do the same thing to prevents its use, as well as EA Anti-Cheat needs to be further developed. Some kind of policy statement from EA and Dice would be welcomed.

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@ATFGunrI'm not tracking here, PC users don't use Cronus as MKB (the reason to use cronus on console) is our main input method.  I've read that recently the exploit to have aim assist with MKB by having a controller simultaneously connected was also fixed so there should be nothing to prevent for PC.

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ATFGunr was just celebrating the fact that a cheating method got nerfed on console.

And because we have crossplay in this game, he will encounter less cheaters as a PC player. Good for everyone. 

It’s interesting because when I played BF2042 via the Xbox One app earlier tonight, none of the usual top of the board PS players were playing.

It could be a coincidence though.

But it sure makes me think!

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@ragnarok013 wrote:

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@ATFGunr wrote:
@sk1lldThat’s sweet. PC needs to do the same thing to prevents its use, as well as EA Anti-Cheat needs to be further developed. Some kind of policy statement from EA and Dice would be welcomed.

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@ATFGunrI'm not tracking here, PC users don't use Cronus as MKB (the reason to use cronus on console) is our main input method.  I've read that recently the exploit to have aim assist with MKB by having a controller simultaneously connected was also fixed so there should be nothing to prevent for PC.

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Geez I’m not sure if I should say, but Cronus and those kinds of devices can apparently work on a PC as well. If you play on PC with a controller anyways from what I’ve read. Then you can use all the BS it has like recoil reduction, etc. Its only real purpose is to cheat, so I’m glad that at least for now, it’s limited. Realistically it has to be eliminated for any purpose, what kind of company would make such a device and take pride in the fact they help people cheat. Game manufacturers should sue them, and drive them out of business.

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@JOGAGATYA wrote:

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@ragnarok013 wrote:

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@ATFGunr wrote:
@sk1lldThat’s sweet. PC needs to do the same thing to prevents its use, as well as EA Anti-Cheat needs to be further developed. Some kind of policy statement from EA and Dice would be welcomed.

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@ATFGunrI'm not tracking here, PC users don't use Cronus as MKB (the reason to use cronus on console) is our main input method.  I've read that recently the exploit to have aim assist with MKB by having a controller simultaneously connected was also fixed so there should be nothing to prevent for PC.

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ATFGunr was just celebrating the fact that a cheating method got nerfed on console.

And because we have crossplay in this game, he will encounter less cheaters as a PC player. Good for everyone. 

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Don't speak for me, you don’t know me. I celebrate anytime cheating is reduced or eliminated for all. I’d be dancing if EA Anticheat was better. I mostly play with crossplay off against other PC players due to the horrible network issues, desync, etc. If consoles can cheat or not doesn’t affect me playing 2042. I don’t know what angle you’re working but I don’t need anyone to speak for me.

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@ATFGunr wrote:

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@JOGAGATYA wrote:

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@ragnarok013 wrote:

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@ATFGunr wrote:
@sk1lldThat’s sweet. PC needs to do the same thing to prevents its use, as well as EA Anti-Cheat needs to be further developed. Some kind of policy statement from EA and Dice would be welcomed.

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@ATFGunrI'm not tracking here, PC users don't use Cronus as MKB (the reason to use cronus on console) is our main input method.  I've read that recently the exploit to have aim assist with MKB by having a controller simultaneously connected was also fixed so there should be nothing to prevent for PC.

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ATFGunr was just celebrating the fact that a cheating method got nerfed on console.

And because we have crossplay in this game, he will encounter less cheaters as a PC player. Good for everyone. 

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Don't speak for me, you don’t know me. I celebrate anytime cheating is reduced or eliminated for all. I’d be dancing if EA Anticheat was better. I mostly play with crossplay off against other PC players due to the horrible network issues, desync, etc. If consoles can cheat or not doesn’t affect me playing 2042. I don’t know what angle you’re working but I don’t need anyone to speak for me.

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I am a simple man. I gave you credit. Maybe my wording was wrong. 

I knew something was odd when I played against other PS5 players. This is disturbing, I knew it I would light someone up in the back and they would turn around so fast and kill me.

EA did ban 30k cheats on fifa back in 2021. I'm sure they have it in them to ban people. I find on the BF series that they just give too many warnings.

I'm glad this device finally got banned, and hopefully, this is just the beginning of a long list of bans coming. It would be so cool if cheaters names got released.

I think Sony is just far behind on updating their system to combat cheating. They should catch up soon.

Some of those streamers aren't as good anymore, kinda odd...lol

I don’t believe that the main reason devices like these are so popular is because so many people want to play MnK on console.
It’s a bit like in the past when people said they bought Playboy magazine just for reading the articles. 😏

I welcome the ban of these! One of the main reasons for me to go from PC to console at the time was the leveled playing field. A closed ecosystem giving hackers no chance, and everybody using mostly the same hardware. Unfortunately this has changed with the arrival of 3rd party and elite controllers, and it has gotten out of hand with cheating devices like Cronus. So if we can revert that a bit temporarily, hoorah!

As said before I’ve got no illusion that we got rid of it completely. The company selling these things will work to get their product working again.

I doubt there’ll ever be 100% cheat-free gaming, not on console either.

Some people get super creative when they can see there’s a market for a way to bend the rules.

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@VOLBANKER_PC wrote:

I doubt there’ll ever be 100% cheat-free gaming, not on console either.

Some people get super creative when they can see there’s a market for a way to bend the rules.

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Isn't this the truth!

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@ATFGunr wrote:
@RanzigeRidder2The Playboy reference is terrific 🤣. Realistically Dice should add legit M&K to 2042 for those console players that want to play that way.

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Playstation itself already supports MnK so good that they ban these devices. Indeed Dice should add proper MnK support for their game too. Then there will be no more need for Cronus and the likes, but I doubt that many of its users will give up on it.

@ATFGunr

Yeah, I know that's correct. Basically anything is traceable. That's where reporting comes in just keep reporting, taking the players name down yourself and see if he/she is still playing in a couple days.

I read an informative article before that said Microsoft makes money off the cheating devices. That's why they drag their feet in doing anything about it. So, they don't want to lose customers. Instead they will just do small patches here and there and stop the low level cheaters and not go after the bigger fishes.

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@ATFGunr wrote:


@JOGAGATYA, your wording made it seem like I was glad that consoles were being restricted and PC was not, which is not my intent at all. I appreciate that may not have been what you meant, I want to stress that cheating of any kind, by any system, is not acceptable. We are all gamers who just want to play and none of us deserve to get railed by cheaters whether on PC or console.

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Yes i totally agree. Anybody who is cheating in games is a pathetic shallow person. Doesn't matter which platform the cheater uses.  What i said originally is that they got rid of some console cheaters and that is good news for both console and PC players because we all play against each other. It's a win for everyone and you seemed happy for this anti cheat win. I am happy too.

@TheseusJason FIFA is EA's cash cow so they care a little bit more.