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Hello, thanks for replying, but I have already tried that route. Twice actually. An advisor cannot help me recover the "deleted" account.
Support: If you want to unlink it kindly have access to the email id linked with that account.
Me: what's the email?
Support: As the account is deleted I can not see the email.If it's in fact deleted, then... why is it associated with anything? Support won't do anything unless I can somehow reactive a deleted account. I tried all my current, active email addresses already. Why does the old account have to be recovered? I just want it removed from my gamer tag. A gamer tag I can prove is my own. I have access to both active accounts that I need linked. Does no one in support have the authority to do such a thing regarding account management?
All the threads I have found about this situation have been locked with no true solution or reports of anyone that has gotten this resolved.
"If you can't verify account ownership, then there's nothing anyone can do." - Then locked.
Again, I have access to both the active accounts that matter. Actually deleting the "deleted" account is all I want done.
I fully understand that there are limits on this board about what can be done in this topic directly, however I feel this a valid place to discuss it since "contact us" goes nowhere helpful.
- EA_Aljo3 years ago
Community Manager
We can't unlink a gamertag without verifying ownership because it's very damaging. You lose all content and progress for EA games. This would be a big problem if we allowed anyone to contact us and unlink accounts without proving they are the owner. These threads are locked because there is nothing we can do about it through Answers HQ so they very frequently just go in a circle and often turn very toxic.
@EA_Aljo wrote:We can't unlink a gamertag without verifying ownership because it's very damaging. You lose all content and progress for EA games. This would be a big problem if we allowed anyone to contact us and unlink accounts without proving they are the owner. These threads are locked because there is nothing we can do about it through Answers HQ so they very frequently just go in a circle and often turn very toxic.
The trouble is there is often no way to prove my Xbox account is my own (ie the email EA has in account does not exist). What has been requested 1000 times is to give the account owners some other REASONABLE way to validate ownership (tell me an IP address from 10 years ago is not reasonable)
In the dozens of threads we've seen on this topic I have seen some cases where support will offer to send the user a message directly on Xbox live with a verification code. DO THIS. Make this standard escalation procedure.
Follow existing process until all other avenues are exhausted, but give users an out.
As someone that is TRYING to play EAs games, and has since NHL 94, it's very frustrating and sort of a slap in the face to be told the company is just locking threads instead of working towards a solution for a problem as common as this.
- EA_Aljo3 years ago
Community Manager
Threads get locked because there's nothing we can do about this and these conversations tend to become toxic.
As far as account verification goes, there are more questions than the IP address so it's not solely based on that. They ask you questions about the history of the account so the idea is that the actual owner will know those details.
@EA_AljoI'd just like to chime in here i've contacted your support 3 times and each time I get the same copy paste answer that I have to re-again access to the old account. The old account in my case and numerous others being decades old with no way of accessing the e-mail.
In my case, I have the outlook address that my gamertag is currently using. I have a screenshot showing that link.
I have created a new EA account alongside this one with that outlook address..... Can you not just take that as proof of ownership?
If you want me to verify one EA account with another EA account that shows the link between gamertag and Microsoft account i'll happily do that.
I can tell you with 100% certainty that not every account owner will be able to tell you this information. Like I said, I've had my gamertag for a LOOONG time - since day 1 of Xbox live.
So that means it could be any one of the dozen addresses I've lived at in the past 15+ years, any one of the credit card #s in the same period (could also be my mother's, since she paid for it when I was a kid), and I have only purchased physical copies of EA games in the past so I'm really clueless on how to look up my history there.
Is there simpler solution than asking a user to dig up decades old information that may or may not exist? Yes. Take 15 seconds to send a verification code to the account (the XBL/PSN account, not the EA email) you're verifying. Account owners will know the code.
Edit: I want to be clear, I am not trying to start a "toxic" discussion. I would however like to share the flaws and frustrations with EA's support and account verification policies. I understand EA community managers can not directly do anything to solve the issue here in this forum but this problem will not magically go away by locking threads. We would like to help EA find a solution that works within their policies as well.
- EA_Aljo3 years ago
Community Manager
It's not an easy one to come up with a perfect solution for. The easier it is to recover your account, the easier it is for others to steal accounts. For example, if someone hacks your Xbox account and we sent a message there to verify, we've now handed over the account to the hacker. I definitely get how frustrating this is, but currently it's our only option for account recovery.
I'm really sorry, but there is absolutely nothing I can do to help with this. Unless the account recovery process changes, you'll need to be able to answer the questions the advisor asks.
- @EA_Aljo In my case, it's a deleted EA account that is paired to my gamer tag, confirmed by EA support chat. What content/progress is there to lose with a deleted account? Apparently whatever email address is associated with the account isn't even available to the rep anymore. The advisor doesn't have any verification questions for me because it seems very little data is retained for a deleted account. It's just dead weight on my Xbox gamer tag.
As to going in circles, why send us to the other support options when it is known that in these specific cases, nothing will be done there either?
There's definitely frustration in these topics, but I haven't come across one with a big toxicity problem. They seem to be locked well before much of a conversation can even take place (though this one is still going thankfully).
@dcourtwreck wrote:
@EA_AljoIn my case, it's a deleted EA account that is paired to my gamer tag, confirmed by EA support chat. What content/progress is there to lose with a deleted account? Apparently whatever email address is associated with the account isn't even available to the rep anymore. The advisor doesn't have any verification questions for me because it seems very little data is retained for a deleted account. It's just dead weight on my Xbox gamer tag.This is my case as well, linked to a deleted account so now my gamertag cannot be used with EA nor the account recovered. I was even able to track down the correct email, but when support attempts to send me a code nothing comes through because the account is deleted.
@EA_Aljo wrote:For example, if someone hacks your Xbox account and we sent a message there to verify, we've now handed over the account to the hacker.
Alright, if we're talking hackers, what if a hacker had control of someone's Xbox account and linked their own (the hacker's) EA account to it. If the true owner of the gamer tag reclaimed their profile, would that Xbox account just be stuck with that hacker's EA account pairing forever? I'm not saying I was hacked, just a hypothetical. What would someone do in that situation? The actual account owner would have no information on the hacker's EA account to be able to verify and unpair it.
Bummer that you aren't getting the codes. How did you figure out what email was associated with the deleted account? I haven't even been able to get that far.
- EA_Aljo3 years ago
Community Manager
You would need to go through account recovery and answer the verification questions to regain control.
@dcourtwreck wrote:Bummer that you aren't getting the codes. How did you figure out what email was associated with the deleted account? I haven't even been able to get that far.
Some time consuming process of elimination work. I gathered every email I could think of I've ever used. Personal, school, work, a couple throwaways, my parents current emails, their old emails, etc.
I noticed if you request a recover code be sent using the usual EA login screen when logging in via email, it will tell you if there is no account associated with the email or, if there is, it will say a code has been sent.
So I went through every email. My current email has this account associated with it, so a code was sent even though I didn't need it. A whole bunch had nothing associated with it. Then I landed on my mother's 25 year old email she used to help me sign up for Xbox live when I was a kid. This is an email from an ISP that doesn't even exist anymore, but thankfully I was able to get the email reactivated (don't get me started on that process). Turns out this is the one, says a code has been sent...
Unfortunately, no code actually gets sent. Talked to support directly and asked for the code to be sent to the email, no luck. I even emailed support directly from that email and they STILL couldn't verify my account.
- @EA_Aljo In my hypothetical situation, that wouldn't be applicable. I wasn't referring to how they would reclaim their Xbox profile. I was asking how a person would possibly remove an EA account that was fraudulently linked to their Xbox profile while it was under control of someone else. The EA account not belonging to the actual owner of the Xbox profile.
@miks88 Ah, I see. I tried the same, but none of my other email addresses were associated with an EA account. It makes me wonder, can a deleted EA account have the same email address as a current one? - @dcourtwreck Your in the same boat as everyone, just stuck in a password verification black hole.... good luck getting a response otherwise.
- EA_Aljo3 years ago
Community Manager
The actual owner would have to go through account recovery to get the account back under their control. At that point, they can unlink the gamertag.
- @EA_Aljo The actual owner of the EA account in my hypothetical is the hacker. The hacker had temporary control of someone's Xbox account and linked their own EA account to it. So the legit owner of the Xbox account would have to have cooperation from the hacker to disconnect the fraudulently linked EA account?
- EA_Aljo3 years ago
Community Manager
They would also need access to the EA account in order to link the 2. Regardless, I'm very sorry, but there is nothing I can do to help with this. You'll need to try again with an advisor.
@dcourtwreck @Philster07 @miks88
ACTUAL SOLUTION:
I had the same problem. Fully explained in this thread verified by EA AHQ staff, online support is useless and cant help.
Basically you need to contact EA's Data Protection Officer (Links and explanation in thread linked above). From there they will verify you via Xbox live by sending you a message from their test machine with a verification code, you email it back and they then reset the account unlinking it from your Xbox account, allowing you free to add a new one. No reason it wont work for your Microsoft account so long as you have access to that.
Took me 2 days to get an email response then it was sorted within a couple of hours.
I did this literally couple days ago and now spreading it on here so the EA staff here know about it, and the community starts to pick up on it. Solution was tick as solution on the thread.
@Vanlife4me ....if this works EA support and all of the community mods here owe you a beer or 10.
Going to give this a try and will report back.
Thank you!
- @Vanlife4me "I filled this form out and sent a message explaining my situation, and how unhelpful support has been, and that under GDPR Article 16...."
I'm in the US, not the EU. I will try to reach out there anyway. - @dcourtwreck It should still work, either way it looks like the DPO and Customer Relations team are the ones who can sort it, so sending them a message should hopefully work!
Let us know how you get on! - @Vanlife4me Looking promising. I got a reply email and am in the process of verifying my Microsoft/Xbox account via friend request and private message code.
- EA_Aljo3 years ago
Community Manager
Hello, everyone. There is more information available on data privacy rights at the bottom of this article. Going through the account recovery process is the proper way to try to recover access to an account. Submitting a GDPR request is not intended for account recovery. Nor may it result in successful account recovery from this line of staff who are suited to address other types of requests.
There are some additional details on how to get help when being locked out of your account here.
More information on accessing your account data can be found in this article.
We definitely understand how frustrating it is to lose account access. However, contacting GDPR does not guarantee account recovery as it is not intended for this. Any previous experiences other players have had with successful results may have been anecdotal.
@dcourtwreck wrote:
@Vanlife4meLooking promising. I got a reply email and am in the process of verifying my Microsoft/Xbox account via friend request and private message code.How long after you submitted the request did you get a reply? I'm still waiting on a response on my side.
- @miks88 The first reply was pretty fast, within 4 hours. Follow up emails have been more spread out, by about 12-24 hours. I'm still going through the process.
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