Re: State of Telemetry in F1 22

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@mariohomoh wrote:

Sorry, mate. What do you mean?

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He might mean do you see telemetry in the garage to go over with your engineer?

Surely this is a realism that needs to be in future games at some point, immersion and driver education.

At least I think that's what he means 😉

@SteveJackson @mariohomoh Was looking for telemetry that you would review with your engineer...

This has been a major shortcoming in the game over the years. In terms of third party it looks like Iko Rein is going to update to F1 22 - have not heard/seen anything yet in terms of PXG Telemetry... Are there others you are aware of?

Thanks

There are a few. From the top of my head there's Hotlaps by Driver61 and Track Titan but they go beyond basic telemetry logging and their full suite of services isn't free i think.

I really like the Driver61 site and have spent time going through the videos. Unfortunately their telemetry client is only available on PC, and my setup is a PS4 and a Mac.

I see that that track Titan does have a MAC client - but first time I have seen this site. Your take on them? Thanks

I'd really like to see in-game telemetry but I don't think we'll have it this year. There is a change to one of the practice programs that is a baby step in this direction but not one that the YouTubers I've seen share this seem to fully understand.

This video should start at an example of what I mean:

https://youtu.be/oSH6Ng_eP8Q?t=64

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@mariohomoh wrote:
@Ultrasonic_77I've seen some of his videos before. Seems like a good chap, but a bit too clueless too often. I usually just skip his stuff.

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To be fair to Anthony, all other YouTubers have been as clueless on the aspect I shared. I just happened to have watched his most recently.

If Anthony ends up streaming full league races on YouTube I'll probably watch as that's hard to find. Most just post highlights or stream elsewhere.

If you're still looking for a telemetry client for Mac, check out F1Laps (https://www.f1laps.com/). You can run the telemetry app on your Mac while playing on any console. Let me know if you have any questions.

@FILaps Do you have any additional sample screens - and/or a listing of what attributes can be displayed? Thanks

FYI - been a fan of your AI Difficulty Calculator!

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@dwin20 wrote:

@FILaps Do you have any additional sample screens - and/or a listing of what attributes can be displayed? Thanks

FYI - been a fan of your AI Difficulty Calculator!

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Sure. You can find a high-level feature summary here: F1Laps Telemetry (https://www.f1laps.com/features/telemetry/). See also F1Laps Lap Times (https://www.f1laps.com/features/laptimes/) and F1Laps Seasons (https://www.f1laps.com/features/seasons/) if you're interested in other features.

You can find lots of sample telemetry data on our public Leaderboards. Here is an example: https://www.f1laps.com/laptimes/leaderboard/f12021/silverstone/8b95f414-0c94-46e9-84f4-a7b90fc7ab1d/

Lastly, below is a sample screenshot that includes telemetry comparison between 2 laps as well (you can compare any of your laps with other laps, like your friends' laps or public leaderboard laps):

I could do this twenty years ago on F1 sim game 

can not believe this is not included 🤦‍♂️

All that Telemetry is great, but the stuff you really need to be able to set up your car, is the stuff you can change in the settings, thus data showing springs, roll bars, wheel spin and ride height behavior to name a few.

And, as I have said in forums before. That stuff should be IN GAME If you you really want the F1 experience being simulated. (Inter action with engineer giving feedback and ideas)

Just guessing, and changing setups without feedback has nothing to do with realism. 

And I am sure, real Sim enthusiasts will remember Microproses Grand Prix series from around 2000... (as pj bot put it) where the Telemetry in game was invaluable for a good setup without getting stuck on a setting that works everywhere (again, that is not realism)

To each their own of course. Even though this game is by far one of the best. Without that it shouldn't be allowed to be compared to a simulator... it is great there are settings and options for all levels of players. But none are for the Sim fanatic if you leave out Telemetry data and are willing to show it. My question simply remains... how much are you really simulating ...

@dhagens1965 Agree that this should be in game. There were several F1 games that had telemetry built in over 20 YEARS ago. They were quite good and covered more elements of the setup. Not sure why this has been left out - given how you can customize what assists you want and there are built-in setups that can be chosen - so less simulation focused players don't have to deal with the additional features if they don't want to. 

Without built in telemetry EA/Codemasters have had to gamify the practice sessions - although in F1 22 there is a little more data after those sessions are completed - but not much. In an actual F1 race weekend about half of the track time is spent in practice working through the setup (excluding sprint race weekends).