Re: AHK/DS4 and EAC

@zuperkamelen That's understandable, I would be frustrated too if a game had started blocking a harmless program that I use.

Meanwhile, I've heard a lot of the same things being said for reWASD and other similar programs, (things like how it shouldn't be blocked), however this was a decision made by Respawn in an attempt to combat cheating.

Edited: I would like to also mention that I have never used any of these programs, (such as AHK, DS4, and reWASD), so I don't fully know what they do outside allowing a PlayStation controller to work as an Xbox controller, or to change what buttons do what, (such as switching the A/B and X/Y buttons). All I know is that Respawn has chosen to block these programs.

I highly doubt that. What would they do? Press Mouse 1 five times on a press. I mean. It doesn't really give you any advantage. Not really.

It's also so unreliable.

What cheats would they honestly do in Apex?

Starcraft, and the like, I would maybe be able to believe. But why not use C to code the cheat if you're gonna cheat?

@zuperkamelenNo sir thoose scripts don’t just press mouse1 five times, they can do a lot more. I don’t wanna get into deep detail here, but ahk is a wide spread software used to cheat in a lot of games.

i lean out of the window now and trust that you really need it for work and it sucks for you, but a program like this cannot be allowed every program that can be used for any kind of automation needs to get removed 

Then my issue become that you can run a python script for automation, or a C written program, an exe, or possibly even through a .bat file. I mean. Just banning everything running ending with '.ahk.' is ridicolous. It's all about what the script is, and they could collect the script itself to scan it for malicious intent.

I still would like to know how much one would potentially succeed to automatable, because with the knowledge I have I am still sceptical that you can do anything complicated reliably. In my experience it is not reliable at all with tasks more complicated than just typing out '/u/'. Even this fails sometimes if you do it quick enough.

Hey @zuperkamelen,

Sorry this has had a negative effect for you.

Though others have discussed some potential issues already, this would not be the place to expand on how AHK (or any other software for that matter) could be used to automate behavior.

While it's great that you don't run in the circles that may use similar programs for less-than-legitimate purposes, those circles do unfortunately exist. There certainly isn't a one-stop solution to cheating, but we're constantly adapting and approaching the issue from multiple angles. Feel free to check this out for a bit more information, if you haven't already seen the article.

Thanks for the discussion and feedback, all!

I decided to play Apex after awhile of not playing it due to all the cheating going on.

Noticed that I can no longer use DS4 Windows. Discovered in other posts this was to prevent cheating.

I have no idea how this software can be used for cheating. It simply emulates an XBOX 360 controller and allows for custom keybinding and sensitivity curves.

I cannot stand how slow the controller inputs are in any of the FPS games I play, so I use DS4 windows to amplify them.

Without this, I can't even turn around to shoot someone behind me in apex before they absolutely melt me, it is physically impossible for me to turn around fast enough since my settings are already maxed out and I have the joystick fully pushed in that direction.

Mouse and keyboard players have "legit" software from their mouse and keyboard companies that allow for all sorts of things - macros (literal key recordings that allow for more than human input), scripts - allows players to have pre-recorded inputs to remove recoil from guns, basically infinite sensitivity adjustments. 

The statement made by Respawn on X is completely false: "blocks programs that give players an unfair competitive advantage". DS4 Windows is a program that gives controller players a FAIR advantage.

There are other ways to detect and ban cheaters, blocking software is not one of them.

I think a solution moving forward would be to allow DS4 Windows to run, or enable the same customization levels in game that DS4 also provides. This game is unplayable with the current settings. ALC was a great step. Now lets take it further

@SolitaryMassacre 

Simply put, because certain people are using it for that purpose. While other avenues may also exist, this isn't an either/or situation where taking action in one area means nothing is being done in other areas.

This issue is one we're continuing to work to address from multiple angles. Do feel free to check through the above link for our latest update on the matter and thanks for the continued feedback, all.

Ds4 windows is the only app that allows you to use the 300$ Dualsense Edge controller on PC with EA games. Blocking access to this app was dumb af, and I have been telling them for 2 months now. It also stops disabled people from using special controls to be able to play video games because of their disabilites.

EA/Respawn are disgusting to have done this.