Re: Aim assist - Feedback from professionals

@Tspin Nah. If I have some understanding of the topic then I won't listen to an illogical opinion. If I have 0 understanding then I'll blindly listen to whatever I'm told. Like when my doctor tells me to consume X amount of poison until the pain goes away.

If the pros say dumb things then I'll accept it's ONLY a reality at the level they're playing or just idiotic bias from another biased person.

The list you made is also laughably untrue if taken at face value. If we assume you're exaggerating to be dramatic then some of it is technically true but meaningfully worthless.

There was a study done to determine the aim assist debate for controller/PC and a determination of why. A program run thousands of simulator runs much like the one used in the canceled show ( The Deadliest Warrior) to bridge the gap between console and PC. Look that up and you'll see real professionals on why it is what it is. 

People that play video games and stream to make money IMO are not gaming professionals. The ones that make the programming, algorithm, do the coding and so fourth... those IMO are the professionals.  

The others, are just people who play too much video games in life and don't contribute a whole lot to society. 

I will desperately try and find this study and post it here as soon as I can. I would love to hear the comments from the PC players and rollers after seeing it. 

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@ComicBookGuy2727 wrote:

There was a study done to determine the aim assist debate for controller/PC and a determination of why. A program run thousands of simulator runs much like the one used in the canceled show ( The Deadliest Warrior) to bridge the gap between console and PC. Look that up and you'll see real professionals on why it is what it is. 

People that play video games and stream to make money IMO are not gaming professionals. The ones that make the programming, algorithm, do the coding and so fourth... those IMO are the professionals.  

The others, are just people who play too much video games in life and don't contribute a whole lot to society. 

I will desperately try and find this study and post it here as soon as I can. I would love to hear the comments from the PC players and rollers after seeing it. 

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Sounds fun cant wait to see your post.

I searched for over 2 and a half hours for this online on my days off, could not find it. I can't remember which company did the study either. This was about 3 years ago, maybe more. 

They ran all these cool, firing and aim training programs with a bunch of random gamers on console and PC. This program took everything into play such as PC movement, key binding, Console's stick play and many many other factors. 

They ran these programs and had two individuals on both inputs that matched almost identically in the simulator programs and then pitted them against each other in hundreds and hundreds of 1 V 1 battles and adjust accordingly until such a time that both player were batting 500. 

It was literally like The Deadliest Warrior show. 

"Aim assist makes it so controller players don’t even have to predict where to shoot because it automatically tracks players" hahaha sorry that made me laugh, if only it's as easy as you make out. Funny how the vast majority of casual players on PC who try controller revert back to M&K as they can't do anything on controller. You make it sound like it's OP and easy on controller, it's the opposite.

That doesn't mean they know what'sbest for the rest of the 99.9999% of players.
They aonly know how AA affects 'their lobbies'.
The best of the best players can take advatage of AA that no 'real' casual player can.

AA doesn't aim for you, you still need to have thumbs.
But...if you're thumbs are top lobby, then AA becomes a borderline exploit.

So the devs need to find a balance.
Make AA comfortable enough so that a casual player can enjoy the game, but punish people (trying to) exploiting it.

Everybody with a controller gets the same amount of aim assist. On all levels of play aim assist is one clipping enemies. Pros have better position and situational awareness. Again, the aim assistance is literally a software that all controllers have and use at all levels.

The casual players probably get more out of it than the professionals in terms of one clipping enemies.

Largely, low skill players don’t use hard cover, run out into the open and get absolutely fried by players with aim assistance.

But again professional players know how to take space and force enemies into positions without hard cover. And once that happens, aim assistance takes over and one clips professional enemies.

Aim assistance is software. It is over tuned and honestly it’s players who think it’s balanced that make the game worse for everybody.

There are only 18 professional MnK players left in the game. The rest have swapped to controller. We’re approaching a 100% controller meta because of how over tuned aim assistance is. 

Apex is about to go down and the most unbalanced game in history. EA and Respawn have no communication with their community. They are literally the most disconnected developers in the industry.

We need to all start realizing/agreeing to, is that no matter what discussions are going on, this is simply an Unfair Problem in the game that needs to go away, that's all there is to it.

Playing this game right now as a MnK player, is not fun!

Aim Assist needs to be removed from this game on PC.

It's so Anoying, my Season K/D reaches again (very fast now because of the new Event Mode) the 1,5 point... and again, I always get into Master Lobbys!

These are mostly Cheaters, they have a visible aim assist & less or none recoil!

@Tspin 
Don't forget the players who use an adapter that emulates a controller.

So, as long as respawn basically offers the cheats themselves... it will never be a fair game for mouse and keyboard players!