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Re: Lifeline 'buff'

@SolitaryMassacre The care packages are a bit more useful now, especially if your squad is low on heals. You can get 6 small health items from one package.
Also, Lifeline is fine without fast heals.

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  • @Sir_Named Her care packages call alot of attention to you and your squad I dont think small heals make it worthwhile for that risk. Id also much prefer a battery than cells every time
  • @iammrpickles5That kind of prove my point of having Evo/Purple Shield, Shield Batteries & Med Kits dropping  every time for consistency with a 180 Secs cool down. Currently the Care Packages are dropping a six syringes/cells combination, along with random attachments and knockdown shield.

  • @Sir_Named Who the hell is low on heals!? THEY ARE EVERYWHERE.

    No she needs fast heals. It made her, well, her. This was a UNIQUE ability only she had. And now its gone. F*cking gibby still gets fast heals in his dam dome.

    This is seriously the worst. They are putting their game into the dirt.
  • Sir_Named's avatar
    Sir_Named
    5 years ago
    @SolitaryMassacre Well, depends on your luck. Plus, you could always be involved in a longe range battle and use up a lot of healing items, especially if the enemy has heavy hitting snipers.

    I’m a little biased on that though, since I played the new mode a lot and was usually relatively low on meds.
  • The whole map is filled with recharge tower. You got plenty of room to spam his ultimate and fill your entire squads with purple gear, which is very useful.

    Purple are not common shields, like everyone like to make them. 

    Landing on Capacitor with good Lifeline is equal to landing with 3 purple shields, because of the 3 recharge towers.

    You can`t have both, auto revive with a shield and on top of that, you can actually revive both teammates, and a fast heals.


    Lifeline was very solid legend. She was the 3rd most picked Legend, and it was by far. She was 3rd most picked in season 4, and 3rd most picked in season 5.

    I don`t know why they spend so much time completely reworking her. She was okay as it was.

    Also she was heavily picked in ranked and i mean heavily.

    Maybe the only reason this rework come was because of her pick rate in competitive, which was like zero in season 4/5.

    But before that she was picked in tournaments. But legends like Octane, Mirage, Crypto, Bangalore, Bloodhound, never was any pick rate in competitive.

    No way in a hell they will give her fast revive + the new passive with auto-revive and second teammate revive. 


    I think the way she is now, its have higher chance to get picked in tournaments/competitive, and her ranked pick rate will kinda stay the same, or maybe drop a bit by the lesser skilled players, but in pub her drop rate will drop for sure.

    Does she needs a buff - absolutely no. She already get a complete rework, so don`t expect anything more for her.

  • Sir_Named's avatar
    Sir_Named
    5 years ago
    @LordloshBang The rework was to make her more unique, since Gibby had both fast heals and fast revives while in the dome.
  • Yeah but you don`t always have fast heal and fast revive with Giby, right ? And he was crap for 3 straight seasons, while Lifeline was always strong.

    And Giby has the biggest hitbox in the game and slow movement animation, which makes him very easy to shot, which is a big thing. Lifeline was totally different.

    And their skill set was totally different. And still Lifeline has higher pick rate compare to Giby.

    I don`t mind the rework, don`t get me wrong. But i just don`t like the revive thing. For me its too much. And people even want her fast heal back, which will be a complete joke to start with it.

  • IAmTheMeddler's avatar
    IAmTheMeddler
    5 years ago
    @SolitaryMassacre She may not have fast heals anymore, but you seem to be forgetting about the huge advantage the drone heal now gives to the team.
    If she still had the fast heals, think about how OP that would make her as a legend. This is not a nerf, simply just a rework of her abilities.

    Also, I remember when Gibby got fast revive in shield everyone was screaming about how Lifeline was now useless. So you may be one of the few, but you can't say that Lifeline was fine with where she was.
  • Sir_Named's avatar
    Sir_Named
    5 years ago
    @LordloshBang But when Gibby did have those abilities, it was in an invincible dome, and the fast heal applied to all teammates, not just him.
    There was a lot of difference, but there was also a lot of similarity.
  • Yeah Giby at one point was imba strong, but he deserved, because he was plain garbage for a lot of seasons. Every single one of his ability was very powerful, and still are.

    Pushing him was a pain, cause he can just dome and ult, and his ultimate is fast as hell, nothing in common with Bangalore for example. :D

    But still i can`t stand playing him, because of the slow animation movement, and his Gun Shield kinda throw my aim, when i ADS, probably because i`m not use to him and its different compare to other legends. :D


    The rework is a fact, and we need a time to see if the Lifeline rework will be a good for her, and will bring it back at the competitive stage. I think Respawn is trying to change the usual suspects in there.


    Until now, 2 legends was a must, and have like 100% pick rate, aka Wraith and Wattson. And the third pick was either Giby/Pathy or Caustic.

    They need to fix this and give different strategy and different playstyle than the current one.

  • @IAmTheMeddler I def do not think she was fine where she was. I also am not saying it was a nerf. Gibby still has fast heals and revive in his dome. Yet, he's not a medic. Giving Lifeline fast heals while still having everything else would not be OP. She is a medic. This is her ability. This is how she should be to make her unique.
  • LordloshBang's avatar
    LordloshBang
    5 years ago

    She is already unique enough. She got a fast heal before, but still people complain and wanted more.

    No way she will got a "touch" and double revive, and a fast heal. This would be ridiculous. 
    Gibraltar fast heal was nerfed, and its just inside his dome, and his hitbox is ridiculous big.

  • Genzzoooo's avatar
    Genzzoooo
    5 years ago
    @LordloshBang I think they should make her tactical heal in a bigger aoe and it should heal faster too. That’s the only gripe i have with her atm. I actually like how they added more stuff onto her care package it’s really nice.
  • @LordloshBang So I just played last night.

    Her care package is still worthless. Always gives you * you don't need.

    Her passive revive isn't that great. You still have to go to the teammate. I thought it would be more like Crypto's drone where you released the drone and either you flew it to the teammate, or it went automatically. Why does the shield still pop up? Can her drone be shot? If so, that is stupid. No protection for the downed teammate. I would sacrifice her fast heals for something better, my complaint is she is still in the same spot as before. It wasn't a buff, but a complete redesign that basically traded things and didn't add to her character.

    The shield for reviving is pointless. You can easily get snipped from a third party when reviving. Something that would have made her unique is revive with a full dome - and give the downed player full health. Then I would have understood removing fast heals.

    And as @StealthRelgal mentions. Her tactical is ALSO pointless. Takes FOREVER to heal you, and won't even heal your entire team if below 25 health. What a great medic. Can't even heal her team. This is where I (being lifeline) am like "I have fast heals, you guys take the drone", and welp now I don't have that.

    This was no way a buff to lifeline. It completely ruined the ONLY good thing she had going for her. I would have been happier with seeing her get a dome for reviving, and giving her downed player full health when revived. Something that actually helps. If they can shoot the drone or teammate when getting revived, its pretty much useless, plus you still have to run over to them anyhow.


    What do you even mean by "its just inside his dome"? That is BETTER than all the time. You know how many times I kill people from a distance while they are healing? Gibby is annoying af when I break almost everyone on the team and then I see his dome and everyone is back to full shields and health and I am not even halfway there - plus now I won't have full health and shields when I get there cause they took away my fast heals.

    I agree that she needed a buff, but this wasn't a buff. It was a trade off. And I would rather have fast heals over all the "new" things they gave her, because they aren't that great.
  • IAmTheMeddler's avatar
    IAmTheMeddler
    5 years ago
    @SolitaryMassacre Her passive revive isn't that great?? Now I know you are trolling... Being able to revive your teammate, with a 180 degree protective shield frees you up to either continue engaging in a gunfight or give you extra time to heal yourself back up. And if you can hold off the enemies long enough, your teammate will be back in the fight. All other legends have to make themselves vulnerable whenever they revive a teammate.
  • I want to add that, her passive can’t be OP (Over Powered) if you can counter it. So a few examples; Revenant can push with his Ultimate, Crypto Ultimate, Caustic Ultimate, Bangalore Ultimate, Gibraltar Ultimate, & even Loba’s Tactical.

    Side Note: Overpowered. Overpowered (often abbreviated to OP) is a common term referring to a perceived lack of game balance. It is often used when describing a specific class in an RPG, a specific faction in strategic games, or a specific tactic, ability, weapon or unit in various games..

    Dictionary definitions of overpowered say it is only usable as a verb, meaning "to overwhelm, defeat, or overcome," but it's not used that way when referring to video games. Instead, OP is an adjective gamers use to describe a particular character, class, ability, or other element of a game as too powerful.

    In other words, y’all saying Lifeline is too powerful and you can’t beat her. Hmm..

  • LordloshBang's avatar
    LordloshBang
    5 years ago

    @IAmTheMeddler wrote:
    @SolitaryMassacreHer passive revive isn't that great?? Now I know you are trolling... Being able to revive your teammate, with a 180 degree protective shield frees you up to either continue engaging in a gunfight or give you extra time to heal yourself back up. And if you can hold off the enemies long enough, your teammate will be back in the fight. All other legends have to make themselves vulnerable whenever they revive a teammate.

    Thats why i didn`t even make myself the work to respond. This is the most OP passive in the entire history of the game. And you can add on top of that, that you can revive your second teammate in that time.

    Most people are complaining, simply because they don`t understand the game, and all they care is their own good, they are not understanding this is a team orientated game, and team abilities from a legends is so important.


    Thats why they are complaining hard time for the fast heal, because they were having a edge in the combat with the fast heal, when hit, run, heal, come back tactic ain`t working anymore. :D

  • @LordloshBang
    @IAmTheMeddler
    I am complaining because I literally just played a game yesterday where I started to revive my teammate, and the second I left, she got killed. So yeah, not that great. In that same game, if I had my fast heals, I would have one. Took FOREVER to pop off a shield battery.

    And really Meddler? ALL other legends are vulnerable when they revive a teammate? Let me help you:
    Bangalore: Can pop a very large dense smoke screen giving cover of 360 degrees. Can apply to any teammate doing the reviving too

    Caustic: Can lay traps (or ult) to cover the entire area in a toxic fog that not only gives you cover 360 degrees but ALSO hurts anyone coming close to you. Can apply to any other teammate doing the reviving

    Mirage: He's f*cking invisible

    Gibby: Gets a FULL DOME of protection and 25% revive speed


    Lifeline gets a whimpy little shield in front of her. It isn't even 180 degrees.

    Go do your homework man..

    Lordlosh, what you mean the "run heal come back" tactic ain't working anymore? Do you even play this game? That is the ONLY tactic EVERYONE does whether or not they are lifeline.

    I will admit being able to revive both players at once is a nice feature, but that won't always be the case. If both your teammates are down, 9/10 times they will get finished off anyhow. So this really isn't a plus.

    I am not also saying they were horrible, I am saying they weren't the trade off for 25% fast heals. There were seriously a million other BETTER options to give her a buff while keeping fast heals.




    Not to even mention. I would bait people with the revive with lifeline. They would see her shield and try to rush. I would quit reviving, and drop em instantly. I would do that purposely. Can't even do that anymore because they KNOW nobody is there reviving them.

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