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Re: Limb Damage on Low Profile Legends

Another cry baby that was bad at the game, but abusing a broken mechanism which was Wraith hitbox, and was getting away with bad strafing, but now when the actual skills matter, he is getting melted. How it was? Oh god, there is a god.

Finally.

Now we are on equal pars.

You actually needs to be good in order to have success with the Wraith and Pathfinder.

The nerf was well deserved and she even deserve a bit more nerfing. Pathfinder too.

And no one was attach to Wraith or Path, if you really are, you won`t complain but just still play them. They were picked because they were OP, and were abusing a broken small hitbox mechanics, that allowed them to get away with getting dodging bullets, just because of the small hitbox.

Wraith up close with a PK was a nightmare. Its still is, but now there is a bit of balance. I like that.

Noobs obviously don`t like that. :D

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  • Nah bro your on drugs imagine a wraith and Gibraltar both land in the same room and pick up the same weapon but they both have no armour Gibraltar will win this exchange 10/10 times cause his armshield gives him 175 health. so tell me.how does nerfing her low profile help? this also applies to all the bigger characters bloodhound caustic they have a buff that gives them extra health so why nerf the smaller characters even more?

  • Sir_Named's avatar
    Sir_Named
    5 years ago
    @ainsleygreen123 Well, Gibby is a tank character, so he does much better in a straight up 1v1. His downside is that he isn't as mobile and if he gets outplayed, he's fairly vulnerable due to his large hitbox.
  • LordloshBang's avatar
    LordloshBang
    5 years ago

    Firstable no this is not a 1 vs 1 game, and never will be. You get that? So you are not balancing the game that way. I hope you understand that.

    And second 5% more damage is 5 hp out of 100 and 10 hp out of 200. Can you even math? This damage is absolutely garbage nothing, when you take into the consideration her small hitbox. And stop the b.c. with this limb shot, cause no one will aim at the limbs, so they make like zero to 1% difference.

    I will actually won 10 out of 10 fight against Gibby, when using Wraith, because you won`t be able to hit me, because of her hitbox. And even with the worst aim on the planet, you can`t miss Gibby.

    If you don`t believe me, lets do it on the firing range.

  • LordloshBang's avatar
    LordloshBang
    5 years ago

    O dear, dear dear.

    So you are getting hit for 10 damage, 10 damage, 10 damage, 10 damage, 10 damage, 10 damage, 10 damage, 10 damage, 10 damage and again 10 damage.

    So pls explain me how much extra damage you will receive ?

    Yes exactly the same as what i typed.

  • @LordloshBang There is no gun in the game that will only do ten health damage to a low profile legend now. Even if you hit them with a single Pk or eva pellet it would still do more. Five percent of your health bar and five percent of the damage output of a gun are not equal to each other.
  • Leo_the_Lion25's avatar
    Leo_the_Lion25
    5 years ago
    @SpaceHamster1991 EVA-8 does 7 damage per a pellet meaning there's no increased damage against low profile but it will see a decrease in damage if you used it against Fortify.

    You do the math like this 7 times 0.05 which equals 7.35.

    You cannot round that up, it's a flat 7 meaning EVA-8 will do the same normal damage to Low Profile as any other normal Legend.

    Gibby and Caustic take 6 damage per a pellet though because 7 times 0.15 is 1.05 but you subtract that from the 7 and you get 5.95.

    Round it up 1 to make 6.

    Depends on the weapon you're using. And PK does 11 damage per a pellet towards Low Profile from 10.
  • LordloshBang's avatar
    LordloshBang
    5 years ago

    You either don`t get it, or try to play possum ...

    It doesn`t matter what damage your weapon does, at the end of  if you get 100 damage, it will be 105, if you get hit for 200, it will be 210.

    Get it now or not ? 

  • @LordloshBang.... Do you know how Low Profile works and Fortify? Because you're wrong.

    The damage is based on bullet, melee, ability, or grenade damage. Whatever that damage is you times that by 5% and add it or subtract 15% from it.

    I just explained how EVA-8 works for example.

    Also, the only thing in this game that will hit you for 100 damage so far is a Frag Grenade. Yes, a Frag Grenade will do 105 to Low Profile if they take the full damage.

    There's nothing in this game that will hit you for 200 damage. We must be playing different games. 

    And no, I'm not including the Kraber Headshot which doesn't matter. Anyone gets knocked by a kraber headshot. 

  • LordloshBang's avatar
    LordloshBang
    5 years ago

    If we got to be fair Kraber can hit you for me than 200. 435i think is the headshot or maybe more? And 145 body, 116 legs and so on.

    What i mean and obviously you can`t get it, is that no matter how the % is calculated at the end of the day you have 100 hp and the best you can get is 225 with the EVO.

    So no matter how you calculate and spin it, to go down you need your hp to go down to zero.

    And no matter how you do the %, its still the same.

    And 5% damage at the end of the day will be exactly as i stated. 
    For normal legends you need to do 200 damage(if full purple), and 100 damage if no armor, for low-profiled you need to do either 95 or 190.

    Yeah the 5% is bulls*****, and not really makes any difference.

    Even if you get hit shot by shot, the % are still the same. 

    And as i stated millions time, you will dodge 50% of the incoming damage, because of the Wraith hitbox.

    Simple as that.

    So 5 or no 5% it doesn`t make a much difference. Same as the limb shot, as no one will aim you at there.

  • @LordloshBang The nerf was specifically because of Wraith. Mostly because she leans over when cut strafing or running and center mass shots hit her limbs. Its still harder to kill her over any legend besides Gibby and Pathfinder, but the wraith mains feel it, judging by all the complaining in the forums over it. I definitely feel it playing lifeline.
  • LordloshBang's avatar
    LordloshBang
    5 years ago

    It doesn`t feel anything. Yesterday played her and won 3 straight up games. I can`t do that with Octane or Bangalore for example. Forget to do that with Mirage on mi skill level atm.

    I don`t feel anything different at her.

    The complaining are coming from spoiled kids, that are overrating and strat crying the moment they see the world balance and Wraith in one sentence.

    I gave a picture at the other thread from the very recent big tournament, and Wraith and Pathfinder was picked in every single team, which  speaks for itself.

    The other 2 legends that were picked was Wattson, and Gibby in a lesser terms.

    No other legends was picked.

    So thats speaks for itself which ones needs more nerf and which ones need buffs.

    I`m watching ImperialHal(probably the best Wraith on the planet) every single day on his stream and hell no, he aint dying more often now.

    You either get gud or if you think this character isn`t as useful go play Mirage and Octane and come back to cry about it.

  • @LordloshBang I wouldnt use the best player of a character as a barometer for how good that character is. Im sure there are some crazy good mirages out there. I agree her hitbox is still insane, but low profile limbs is the first thing they've done that I feel will actually affect her in 1v1s for average or above average players, hence all the whining on the forums.
  • LordloshBang's avatar
    LordloshBang
    5 years ago

    Balance is made at the highest possible gameplay. Where you see someone to ever use Mirage at tournament or high level gameplay, unless he is trolling or have fun with it ?

    Game is not orientated around 1 vs 1.

    Yeah she is going to lose a fight one vs one, but she is still top 2 character. Everyone losing 1 v 1 fight, depends on the skill level and the legends you are against. Gibby will probably took you. 
    A good Caustic can f**** you too, depends on the situation.

    This is not a 1v1 game, where

  • KohlerVX's avatar
    KohlerVX
    5 years ago

    Dog I GUARANTEE you're a caustic main who camps in buildinds and have no clue whats really happening LMAO. Path hasn't been good since season 4, he is the third biggest hitbox and has low profile WITH extra limb damage lmao they did this cuz he had a broken hitbox till season 2 and they just haven't changed it yet. Wraith is almost worthless now except her portal, I've been playing her since release and you have NO clue what youre talking about lmao getting pumped in my toes with a mastiff for 91 is fair and even? octane is smaller than wraith and doesn't have "low profile" the devs are continuously nerfing wraith to take her OUT of meta, not to balance her. They went too far with this. Get good and you'll understand

  • KohlerVX's avatar
    KohlerVX
    5 years ago
    @Sir_Named he doesnt have to be mobile lol he has a dome shield that lasts 20 seconds. that character is BUSTED as well as caustic. the devs are just trash. idk how you dont know to make all the characters have the same hitbox lmao common sense
  • KohlerVX's avatar
    KohlerVX
    5 years ago
    @LordloshBang not with limb damage included? LMAO if wraith gets pumped in her toes she'll take a full 91 damage pump as to where any other character takes less than 60. Youre clueless kid. So when your 2 teammates go down and the enemy team has 1 player up its not a 1v1? This ENTIRE game is trying to separate enemies to create a 1v1 fight or even a 2v1 lol you are so lost its pitiful kid. so pipe down
  • KohlerVX's avatar
    KohlerVX
    5 years ago
    @LordloshBang lets do it kid. i'll * on you in the range. whats your name? i'll stand there with my gun shield and 50 extra health and you can be wraith and NO MATTER where i hit you, legs or arms you're gonna take full damage lmao apparently you've never fought a decent gibby. they can even be trash and still win cuz of the health advantage. everyone knows gibby is beyond busted

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